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  • #16
    sierratangofoxtrotunion
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 4875

    Originally posted by hill billy
    Couldn't find it, do you have a link?
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    im 26 and I feel like a creep trying to mack the 18 year old, i still do it, but I feel creepy.

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    • #17
      deleted by PC police
      Banned
      • Feb 2008
      • 1374

      This is awsome.

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      • #18
        sorensen440
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2007
        • 8611

        Originally posted by sierratangofoxtrotunion
        is it working for you ?
        it wont work for me anymore
        "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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        • #19
          dfletcher
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2006
          • 14772

          Originally posted by sorensen440
          Bush has the power to do that from my understanding
          Why would he do that? If someone is doing something foolish and you want to beat them, let them keep on doing it.
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          • #20
            sorensen440
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2007
            • 8611

            Originally posted by dfletcher
            Why would he do that? If someone is doing something foolish and you want to beat them, let them keep on doing it.
            It would make it more well known what they did
            right now most people dont have a clue whats going on
            its buried on fox and cnn's webistes
            "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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            • #21
              Decoligny
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2008
              • 10615

              Originally posted by CCWFacts
              If Congress authorized offshore drilling today, then maybe it would decrease pump prices by a few pennies per gallon (at most) ten or 15 years from now. It certainly won't do anything for the economy, for energy prices, or to save consumers any meaningful amount of money at the pump.
              By first sending your kid to school you won't see any benefit to the economy for 12 years. With College it's more like 16 or 20 with graduate school. Doesn't stop you from doing it though.

              If we don't START the process, we will never see any benifits from it. If we all agreed to go completely Solar, it would be 10 to 15 years before we saw the end results. We need to start working at getting ALL the various energy solutions up to speed by STARTING to do something.

              Talking about how it'll never make any difference, and it take too long, leaves us at the mercy of foreign oil merchants. And we have seen where that gets us.
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              • #22
                hill billy
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Mar 2008
                • 2890

                Originally posted by Decoligny
                By first sending your kid to school you won't see any benefit to the economy for 12 years. With College it's more like 16 or 20 with graduate school. Doesn't stop you from doing it though.

                If we don't START the process, we will never see any benifits from it. If we all agreed to go completely Solar, it would be 10 to 15 years before we saw the end results. We need to start working at getting ALL the various energy solutions up to speed by STARTING to do something.

                Talking about how it'll never make any difference, and it take too long, leaves us at the mercy of foreign oil merchants. And we have seen where that gets us.
                You two cut out the facts and logic. This is about a GOP stunt that is turning into a hamfest. Let's just enjoy it for what it is.
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                • #23
                  sorensen440
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 8611

                  Originally posted by CCWFacts
                  If Congress authorized offshore drilling today, then maybe it would decrease pump prices by a few pennies per gallon (at most) ten or 15 years from now. It certainly won't do anything for the economy, for energy prices, or to save consumers any meaningful amount of money at the pump.
                  And your more likely to shoot your brother then a burglar if you have a gun

                  they could be pumping oil in 2 months if the red tape was outta the way
                  "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #24
                    CCWFacts
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2007
                    • 6168

                    Originally posted by sorensen440
                    they could be pumping oil in 2 months if the red tape was outta the way
                    If they could somehow start pumping at full capacity this weekend, it would make almost no difference to oil prices or pump prices. Oil is a global market. Adding a few more drops to the bucket might make billions for the people who own those drops, but it doesn't do anything to change oil prices.
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                    • #25
                      IGOTDIRT4U
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 10861

                      Originally posted by CCWFacts
                      If Congress authorized offshore drilling today, then maybe it would decrease pump prices by a few pennies per gallon (at most) ten or 15 years from now. It certainly won't do anything for the economy, for energy prices, or to save consumers any meaningful amount of money at the pump.
                      If they had not been opposing it 15 years ago, we would have the resources now, and our dependence mitigated. So, what, we wait another 10-15 years? to say the same things, and do the same thing, nothing. All the while Russia, China and other countries siphon out from underneath us the very oil fields WE found years ago?
                      "Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact washiness and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtue, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." - Theodore Roosevelt

                      Would you people please stop bashing "Elmer Fudd?" After all, he was an avid sportsman, hunter, and 2a supporter. -Ed in Sac
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                      • #26
                        Gator Monroe
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 6422

                        Originally posted by sorensen440
                        Bush has the power to do that from my understanding
                        Ditto ! (But CCWFacts would hate that ...)

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                        • #27
                          giarcpnw
                          Member
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 209

                          "they could be pumping oil in 2 months if the red tape was outta the way"

                          That is completely false. It would take two or more years before pumping would begin. You have to look for it first, find it, deduce if it's worth drilling enough to get a return and then, someone has to build a rig and get it to the location. As i remember there has been a huge shortage of rigs being built due to china and india's demand for them.

                          It's not as simple as it looks. Plus, i think it's the GOP giving the oil companies one more favor. There's not enough oil out there to support the US for more then 6 months or so. So it would be a tiny percentage of oil to hit the market. We would still be very dependent on foreign oil. Honestly, we need to move on to alternative choices now and leave that oil there for usage later when we're running out. We can transist to alternatives more smoothly now while we still have oil or we can keep putting it off (which is what big oil wants) till we are completely screwed and then try to convert.

                          It's gonna hurt either way we do it yet one way is a much smoother transitions. Like it or not, oil is never gonna be 2.50 again. It's just gonna keep going up if we don't curb our demand for it. The problem is less the US gov right now and more the people's gluttonous usage of it. Time to ween off the teat folks and try a different formula.

                          C
                          Last edited by giarcpnw; 08-01-2008, 2:42 PM.

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                          • #28
                            hill billy
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 2890

                            UPDATE 7: It's over.

                            Right at the stroke of five Georgia Rep. Tom Price announced that House Republicans were ending their impromptu protest on the floor of the chamber, ending a five-plus hour rebellion with a round of "God Bless America."

                            The assembled tourists, aides and members in the chamber gave Price and his compatriots a standing ovation. They left the chamber to shouts of "USA! USA! USA!"
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                            • #29
                              Meplat
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 6903

                              Originally posted by CCWFacts
                              If Congress authorized offshore drilling today, then maybe it would decrease pump prices by a few pennies per gallon (at most) ten or 15 years from now. It certainly won't do anything for the economy, for energy prices, or to save consumers any meaningful amount of money at the pump.


                              Socialist talking points. It could be in our tanks in 18 months, and just the realization that America is fighting back would start to bring prices down immediately. Bush just dropped a presidential order against drilling off shore which didn’t even have any teeth without congress and prices started to fall.
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                              • #30
                                IGOTDIRT4U
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 10861

                                Originally posted by giarcpnw
                                "they could be pumping oil in 2 months if the red tape was outta the way"

                                That is completely false. It would take two or more years before pumping would begin. You have to look for it first, find it, deduce if it's worth drilling enough to get a return and then, someone has to build a rig and get it to the location. As i remember there has been a huge shortage of rigs being built due to china and india's demand for them.

                                It's not as simple as it looks. Plus, i think it's the GOP giving the oil companies one more favor. There's not enough oil out there to support the US for more then 6 months or so. So it would be a tiny percentage of oil to hit the market. We would still be very dependent on foreign oil. Honestly, we need to move on to alternative choices now and leave that oil there for usage later when we're running out. We can transist to alternatives more smoothly now while we still have oil or we can keep putting it off (which is what big oil wants) till we are completely screwed and then try to convert.

                                It's gonna hurt either way we do it yet one way is a much smoother transitions. Like it or not, oil is never gonna be 2.50 again. It's just gonna keep going up if we don't curb our demand for it. The problem is less the US gov right now and more the people's gluttonous usage of it. Time to ween off the teat folks and try a different formula.

                                C
                                Not even close. There is so much mis-information here it is killing me. If you want to be a cheer leader for the NIMBY crowd, knock yourself out. But please, no FUD. (and you're right; oil will never be 2.50 again, but GAS might)
                                "Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact washiness and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtue, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." - Theodore Roosevelt

                                Would you people please stop bashing "Elmer Fudd?" After all, he was an avid sportsman, hunter, and 2a supporter. -Ed in Sac
                                sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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