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Anybody paying attention to what's happening in Congress at the moment?
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Originally posted by Rob454I would bang her till her insurance kicked in. I'll tear that up.Originally posted by gravediggerI need your help. Rush over here with shovels, half-naked girls and lots of beer!Originally posted by SVT_Foxim 26 and I feel like a creep trying to mack the 18 year old, i still do it, but I feel creepy. -
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it wont work for me anymore"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas JeffersonComment
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"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas JeffersonComment
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If Congress authorized offshore drilling today, then maybe it would decrease pump prices by a few pennies per gallon (at most) ten or 15 years from now. It certainly won't do anything for the economy, for energy prices, or to save consumers any meaningful amount of money at the pump.
If we don't START the process, we will never see any benifits from it. If we all agreed to go completely Solar, it would be 10 to 15 years before we saw the end results. We need to start working at getting ALL the various energy solutions up to speed by STARTING to do something.
Talking about how it'll never make any difference, and it take too long, leaves us at the mercy of foreign oil merchants. And we have seen where that gets us.sigpic
If you haven't seen it with your own eyes,
or heard it with your own ears,
don't make it up with your small mind,
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By first sending your kid to school you won't see any benefit to the economy for 12 years. With College it's more like 16 or 20 with graduate school. Doesn't stop you from doing it though.
If we don't START the process, we will never see any benifits from it. If we all agreed to go completely Solar, it would be 10 to 15 years before we saw the end results. We need to start working at getting ALL the various energy solutions up to speed by STARTING to do something.
Talking about how it'll never make any difference, and it take too long, leaves us at the mercy of foreign oil merchants. And we have seen where that gets us.This is about a GOP stunt that is turning into a hamfest. Let's just enjoy it for what it is.
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If Congress authorized offshore drilling today, then maybe it would decrease pump prices by a few pennies per gallon (at most) ten or 15 years from now. It certainly won't do anything for the economy, for energy prices, or to save consumers any meaningful amount of money at the pump.
they could be pumping oil in 2 months if the red tape was outta the way"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas JeffersonComment
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If they could somehow start pumping at full capacity this weekend, it would make almost no difference to oil prices or pump prices. Oil is a global market. Adding a few more drops to the bucket might make billions for the people who own those drops, but it doesn't do anything to change oil prices."Weakness is provocative."
Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024
Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.Comment
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If Congress authorized offshore drilling today, then maybe it would decrease pump prices by a few pennies per gallon (at most) ten or 15 years from now. It certainly won't do anything for the economy, for energy prices, or to save consumers any meaningful amount of money at the pump."Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact washiness and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtue, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." - Theodore Roosevelt
Would you people please stop bashing "Elmer Fudd?" After all, he was an avid sportsman, hunter, and 2a supporter. -Ed in SacComment
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"they could be pumping oil in 2 months if the red tape was outta the way"
That is completely false. It would take two or more years before pumping would begin. You have to look for it first, find it, deduce if it's worth drilling enough to get a return and then, someone has to build a rig and get it to the location. As i remember there has been a huge shortage of rigs being built due to china and india's demand for them.
It's not as simple as it looks. Plus, i think it's the GOP giving the oil companies one more favor. There's not enough oil out there to support the US for more then 6 months or so. So it would be a tiny percentage of oil to hit the market. We would still be very dependent on foreign oil. Honestly, we need to move on to alternative choices now and leave that oil there for usage later when we're running out. We can transist to alternatives more smoothly now while we still have oil or we can keep putting it off (which is what big oil wants) till we are completely screwed and then try to convert.
It's gonna hurt either way we do it yet one way is a much smoother transitions. Like it or not, oil is never gonna be 2.50 again. It's just gonna keep going up if we don't curb our demand for it. The problem is less the US gov right now and more the people's gluttonous usage of it. Time to ween off the teat folks and try a different formula.
CLast edited by giarcpnw; 08-01-2008, 2:42 PM.Comment
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UPDATE 7: It's over.
Right at the stroke of five Georgia Rep. Tom Price announced that House Republicans were ending their impromptu protest on the floor of the chamber, ending a five-plus hour rebellion with a round of "God Bless America."
The assembled tourists, aides and members in the chamber gave Price and his compatriots a standing ovation. They left the chamber to shouts of "USA! USA! USA!"Comment
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If Congress authorized offshore drilling today, then maybe it would decrease pump prices by a few pennies per gallon (at most) ten or 15 years from now. It certainly won't do anything for the economy, for energy prices, or to save consumers any meaningful amount of money at the pump.
Socialist talking points. It could be in our tanks in 18 months, and just the realization that America is fighting back would start to bring prices down immediately. Bush just dropped a presidential order against drilling off shore which didn’t even have any teeth without congress and prices started to fall.sigpicTake not lightly liberty
To have it you must live it
And like love, don't you see
To keep it you must give it
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I will go now, and fight you." (Red Cloud)Comment
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"they could be pumping oil in 2 months if the red tape was outta the way"
That is completely false. It would take two or more years before pumping would begin. You have to look for it first, find it, deduce if it's worth drilling enough to get a return and then, someone has to build a rig and get it to the location. As i remember there has been a huge shortage of rigs being built due to china and india's demand for them.
It's not as simple as it looks. Plus, i think it's the GOP giving the oil companies one more favor. There's not enough oil out there to support the US for more then 6 months or so. So it would be a tiny percentage of oil to hit the market. We would still be very dependent on foreign oil. Honestly, we need to move on to alternative choices now and leave that oil there for usage later when we're running out. We can transist to alternatives more smoothly now while we still have oil or we can keep putting it off (which is what big oil wants) till we are completely screwed and then try to convert.
It's gonna hurt either way we do it yet one way is a much smoother transitions. Like it or not, oil is never gonna be 2.50 again. It's just gonna keep going up if we don't curb our demand for it. The problem is less the US gov right now and more the people's gluttonous usage of it. Time to ween off the teat folks and try a different formula.
C"Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact washiness and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtue, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." - Theodore Roosevelt
Would you people please stop bashing "Elmer Fudd?" After all, he was an avid sportsman, hunter, and 2a supporter. -Ed in SacComment
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