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  • ceedubG
    Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 314

    Chabot Gun Club Threatened with Closure

    It's an early issue at this point, but I view this as a 2A issue in that there is a small ground swell in an Oakland neighborhood in an effort to close the Chabot Gun Club. A petition has been started on the basis that the range noise is a nuisance to a close neighborhood and as such they would like it closed. The petition offers the usual unintelligent reasons.

    This issue was brought up in the local calguns forum a few days ago but I thought posting here would give this issue more viability.

    This is a 2A issue to me in that if we're not careful we will have no place to exercise our 2A rights. I have included a link to the petition, but would ask you not sign it in order to say something snarkey. I'm hopeful that another member here has some insight and might be able to share information on if the range is aware of this petition and if anything has been done to address it.

    The climate in Oakland is one in which I could see this issue being picked up and run with. It would be very disappointing to lose this treasure.

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    wirenut6
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 146

    Maybe start a counter-petition to legalize suppressors. Most of the complaints are about the noise. ;-)
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    Noah Webster, An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 1787

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    • #3
      highender
      Practical Googleplex Guy
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2012
      • 5919

      chabot gun club is way far off in the mountains., with lots of valleys and hills surrounding it. I think this is an attempt by Anti's to make something out of nothing.


      If they have nothing to do, they should go out and help police capture criminals.
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      • #4
        elSquid
        In Memoriam
        • Aug 2007
        • 11844

        Perhaps it should be pointed out that range gunfire doesn't seem to bother the deer and turkeys, who routinely walk downrange while the line is hot.



        -- Michael

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        • #5
          djflash
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 945

          There's more info on this in the Bay Area Chapter Forum

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          • #6
            Pauliedad
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Dec 2012
            • 2095

            I understand this was instigated by hikers. Complaints coming from anyone not a local resident effected at their home should really be a non issue.
            Then again, its Oakland.
            Someone needs to see if those hikers would like to learn to shoot.

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            • #7
              vprieto23
              Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 495

              What is wrong with these people just want to slap the stupid out of them....

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              • #8
                AceGirlsHusband
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 2651

                Read some of the comments the petition-signers have left. Everything from "stop the violence" to "the poison lead may find its way into my pet's organs in that environment."

                110 people have scrawled their names to that atrocity so far. There is no allowance for dissent on the petition comments, either. In the end, 200 screaming, crying, belly-aching. lying, insufferable and intolerant gun prohibitionists will decide the fate of half a million people.

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                • #9
                  microstencil
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 2315

                  Originally posted by highender
                  chabot gun club is way far off in the mountains., with lots of valleys and hills surrounding it. I think this is an attempt by Anti's to make something out of nothing.


                  If they have nothing to do, they should go out and help police capture criminals.


                  LOL. Most of the signers are probably the criminals that the police are looking for
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                  • #10
                    Skidmark
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1803

                    Originally posted by highender
                    chabot gun club is way far off in the mountains., with lots of valleys and hills surrounding it. I think this is an attempt by Anti's to make something out of nothing.

                    If they have nothing to do, they should go out and help police capture criminals.
                    The range sits in the East Bay hills (pushed up over millions of years of seismic and tectonic activity), surrounded by Eucs, yes, but also in a small valley that empties out to Lake Chabot. I can imagine the sound of my firing might carry down that valley out across the lake and toward the homes that one can see along the far ridge, beyond the lake.

                    But like the fools who moved to the John Muir Apartments across from the Lake Merced range in San Francisco, the majority of homeowners on the west side of Lake Chabot no doubt moved there well after establishment of the Chabot range. The recreational activity and its noise was there before they were...

                    I'll write a letter to EBRPD expressing my support for the range.
                    Making guns illegal is as stupid as making drugs or prostitution illegal.

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                    • #11
                      Socalman
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1339

                      For many years in Southern California, the San Gabriel Valley Gun Club was in an area called Fish Canyon. I am not sure how many years back the club went, I know it had been there for many years in the 1960's. In the early 1990's houses were built about a mile and half northeast of the club. I am told that the original purchasers of those homes had to sign a document acknowledging the existence of the gun club a short distance away. Well, the new residents organized, lawyered up and got a judge to shut the club down as a nuisance and danger.

                      Since I was not actively involved with shooting at the time I do not know if the above is 100% accurate. I had my rifle and my son learned to shoot there. If you really know just what happened at SGVGB, please correct any errors I made.

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                      • #12
                        GOEX FFF
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                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 5969

                        This is like people who move next door to an airport and then complain about the sounds of jetliners that fly overhead.
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                        • #13
                          scarville
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2325

                          Originally posted by Socalman
                          Since I was not actively involved with shooting at the time I do not know if the above is 100% accurate. I had my rifle and my son learned to shoot there. If you really know just what happened at SGVGB, please correct any errors I made.
                          Most of the range was on Vulcan Mine Company property which the club leased. Some of the land was leased from the Army Corp. of Engineers. The city of Duarte put pressure on Vulcan not to renew the lease and SGVGC had to close.
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                          • #14
                            Sputnik
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 2091

                            If CA really cared about the whiny busy bodies it'd let us all have suppressors...for the children.
                            But seriously, this is the nicest range in the East Bay and I don't want to lose it! If this bs gets past the online petition phase I'm ready to fight it.

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                            • #15
                              coma13
                              Übermensch
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 2059

                              Looks like I need to make some more trips down to Chabot for some range time. Money talks.

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