Neighbor Arrested: Orange County

[a1c]

That's cool. If I had to do it over again, I'd do the same. Why would I put myself in harms way. Why would I risk getting shot, why would I risk getting stabbed. Say and think all you want. You can have this **** hole of a state and your ***** attitude. I'm out. Getting away from people who think like you.

Good luck with this lost cause of a state. Remember it's your attitude that allows you guys to keep being victims.

You sound like the guy with the ****ty attitude.

People like you always think the grass is always greener somewhere else. They don't realize they're the problem.

You remind me of that quote - not sure if it's from Elmore Leonard:

“You run into an ***hole in the morning, you ran into an ***hole. You run into ***holes all day, you’re the ***hole.”

[mag360]

Unknown dude in his yard stealing his things and not following commands while trespassing? It seems like he was right to pull the gun. He did not shoot because the situation didn't escalate.

Having said that I lose tactical advantage leaving my house so I'd stay inside, loaded, with the boys in blue on the phone with their fancy badge and union to back them up. Its not worth risking a shot as long as he stays out of my house.

[Movin&Shakin]

I'm sure before anybody at Calguns gets involved to donate 2a legal, they will do their homework and get the facts. Most the OC Sheriff are good guys and know the 2a. No way this is the whole story.

[Wiz-of-Awd]

Unknown dude in his yard stealing his things and not following commands while trespassing? It seems like he was right to pull the gun. He did not shoot because the situation didn't escalate.

Having said that I lose tactical advantage leaving my house so I'd stay inside, loaded, with the boys in blue on the phone with their fancy badge and union to back them up. Its not worth risking a shot as long as he stays out of my house.

You may want to research things a bit on this, with regards to your opinion on "right to pull..."

A.W.D.

[greg36f]

Unknown dude in his yard stealing his things and not following commands while trespassing? It seems like he was right to pull the gun. He did not shoot because the situation didn't escalate.

Having said that I lose tactical advantage leaving my house so I'd stay inside, loaded, with the boys in blue on the phone with their fancy badge and union to back them up. Its not worth risking a shot as long as he stays out of my house.

Not sure the guy was stealing anything. Sounds like the guy went in his yard and ran off (or walked off) when he was confronted.

Not sure if that would be (or should be) a good shoot anywhere.

I get the fact that they guy wants a gun with him when he goes out into the yard, but the whole pointing / shooting thing is over the top.

[Spyguy]

Where did people develop this absurd notion that your property is not part of your home and thus you are not permitted to defend it or to even go outside your door if there is an intruder? Oh I know, in the liberal government indoctrination camps called "public schools."

Obviously an innocent person who inadvertently wanders onto your unfenced land cannot simply be shot for no other reason. But you do have a right to arm yourself and investigate your entire property. You do have a right to question a person's presence on your property. You do have a right to give them orders to not approach or otherwise threaten your safety. And you do have the right to shoot them if they ignore those orders and you feel your life is endangered.

PM123 was completely justified in his actions. (I'm not arguing his tactics; simply what he had a right to do.) And he did the correct thing by NOT shooting the perp when the perp withdrew. Yet everyone here is criticizing him as some trigger-happy nutjob, when he already proved that he isn't.

It's amazing how so many have been indoctrinated into the idea of cowering inside your house, while criminals are allowed free reign over your property, and according to some, those criminals are even permitted to steal freely from you without resistance. Doesn't sound like it's really your property to me.

How far we have fallen as a nation.

[gogohopper]

Where did people develop this absurd notion that your property is not part of your home and thus you are not permitted to defend it or to even go outside your door if there is an intruder? Oh I know, in the liberal government indoctrination camps called "public schools."

Obviously an innocent person who inadvertently wanders onto your unfenced land cannot simply be shot for no other reason. But you do have a right to arm yourself and investigate your entire property. You do have a right to question a person's presence on your property. You do have a right to give them orders to not approach or otherwise threaten your safety. And you do have the right to shoot them if they ignore those orders and you feel your life is endangered.

PM123 was completely justified in his actions. (I'm not arguing his tactics; simply what he had a right to do.) And he did the correct thing by NOT shooting the perp when the perp withdrew. Yet everyone here is criticizing him as some trigger-happy nutjob, when he already proved that he isn't.

It's amazing how so many have been indoctrinated into the idea of cowering inside your house, while criminals are allowed free reign over your property, and according to some, those criminals are even permitted to steal freely from you without resistance. Doesn't sound like it's really your property to me.

How far we have fallen as a nation.

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[tquizzle]

Neighbor Arrested: Orange County

I would probably stay inside with my gun and tell commands out the window, not pull on the guy, you don't really know exactly what his plan was. It is your property but you aren't allowed to protect property with lethal force, you can only protect yours or others lives with a gun and you have to be able to articulate that if law enforcement gets involved. You can't hunt down and confront the "threat" guys. Be smart, not incarcerated.

[Librarian]

OP asked for a lawyer recommendation and got a couple.

I think we agree that the arrested person needs that lawyer. Everything else is speculation.

Closed.