Assembled mags after 1/1/2014?

[morningglory]

Hi all,

I understand that after 1/1 the importation, sale, transfer of magazine parts kits (high capacity) will be illegal. Will pre-ban legal mags that are assembled and left in a domicile or other private property still be ok? Or do all of those need to be disassembled? Thanks.

[hellayella]

u can have it, but they can be confiscated under nuisance law..IMO, keep hidden

[Ronin2]

u can have it, but they can be confiscated under nuisance law..IMO, keep hidden

Step up and contribute to support the NRA-ILA in its challenge to the SF nuisance law. It's our chance to have the law overturned statewide.

[Librarian]

Hi all,

I understand that after 1/1 the importation, sale, transfer of magazine parts kits (high capacity) will be illegal. Will pre-ban legal mags that are assembled and left in a domicile or other private property still be ok? Or do all of those need to be disassembled? Thanks.

No change for existing legally-owned mags.

But the legislature tried in 2013, and 2014 is another opportunity ...

[MontClaire]

Buy them kits now before the ban on Jan 1st. I have some Pmags LR308 if you need it.

[tpc13]

What is the Penal code section please..

[BCA142]

Hi all,

I understand that after 1/1 the importation, sale, transfer of magazine parts kits (high capacity) will be illegal. Will pre-ban legal mags that are assembled and left in a domicile or other private property still be ok? Or do all of those need to be disassembled? Thanks.

California can not get it through their thick skulls that these are STANDARD CAPACITY magazines. The 10 round magazines are LIMITED edition California only magazines.

[Quiet]

What is the Penal code section please..

Penal Code 16740
As used in this part, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(a) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(b) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(c) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

Penal Code 32310
(a) Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section 32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, commencing January 1, 2000, any person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, buys, or receives any large-capacity magazine is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.
(b) For purposes of this section, "manufacturing" includes both fabricating a magazine and assembling a magazine from a combination of parts, including, but not limited to, the body, spring, follower, and floor plate or end plate, to be a fully functioning large-capacity magazine.

Penal Code 32311
(a) Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section 32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, commencing January 1, 2014, any person in this state who knowingly manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, buys, or receives any large capacity magazine conversion kit is punishable by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000) or imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed six months, or by both that fine and imprisonment. This section does not apply to a fully assembled large-capacity magazine, which is governed by Section 32310.
(b) For purposes of this section, a "large capacity magazine conversion kit" is a device or combination of parts of a fully functioning large-capacity magazine, including, but not limited to, the body, spring, follower, and floor plate or end plate, capable of converting an ammunition feeding device into a large-capacity magazine.

Penal Code 32390
Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section 32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, any large-capacity magazine is a nuisance and is subject to Section 18010.

Penal Code 18010
(b) These weapons shall be subject to confiscation and summary destruction whenever found within the state.

[pitbull30]

Step up and contribute to support the NRA-ILA in its challenge to the SF nuisance law. It's our chance to have the law overturned statewide.

Link to what he is referring too.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=844638

[chrisn]

The LAST thing you should do is disassemble a legally possessed >10 round magazine post 1/1/2014. Thereafter the (re)ASSEMBLY from the parts is DEFINITELY a crime, whereas there is some debate as to whether such assembly is currently criminal "manufacturing" (with the evidence of such doubt being the new language regarding assembly)....

[Spyguy]

The LAST thing you should do is disassemble a legally possessed >10 round magazine post 1/1/2014. Thereafter the (re)ASSEMBLY from the parts is DEFINITELY a crime, whereas there is some debate as to whether such assembly is currently criminal "manufacturing" (with the evidence of such doubt being the new language regarding assembly)....

This sounds like FUD to me. If what you say were true, how would one disassemble to clean or service a legal, pre-ban standard capacity magazine?

Furthermore, the new law that will take effect on 2014-01-01 only bans the importation and transfer of COMPLETE magazine rebuild kits. As I read it, there is nothing preventing the sale and transfer of individual magazine parts, as long as the collection of individual parts being sold or transferred cannot by themselves be assembled into a complete magazine.

[hellayella]

This sounds like FUD to me. If what you say were true, how would one disassemble to clean or service a legal, pre-ban standard capacity magazine?

Furthermore, the new law that will take effect on 2014-01-01 only bans the importation and transfer of COMPLETE magazine rebuild kits. As I read it, there is nothing preventing the sale and transfer of individual magazine parts, as long as the collection of individual parts being sold or transferred cannot by themselves be assembled into a complete magazine.

2nd...pre-ban mags are ok to keep...

[skilletboy]

California can not get it through their thick skulls that these are STANDARD CAPACITY magazines. The 10 round magazines are LIMITED edition California only magazines.

BC they know they aren't and they don't care. And they intend to disarm America by the death of a thousand paper cuts!!

[BCA142]

BC they know they aren't and they don't care. And they intend to disarm America by the death of a thousand paper cuts!!

I know their position and that they do not care. People need to start referring to these magazines as standard capacity and not buy into their BS. They are standard capacity magazines from the factory for all of the other states. The firearms manufacturers are forced to make non-standard low capacity magazines for Calif. in order to sell "Safe" guns. So the next time some one says to you that your handgun is unsafe, tell them that is not true. California says it is "Safe" according to THEIR roster. Man I hate this BS!!!!!!

[chris]

No change for existing legally-owned mags.

But the legislature tried in 2013, and 2014 is another opportunity ...

and will continue until it is law.