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  • #16
    swhatb
    Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 399

    Originally posted by Boxer
    Is this a legal way to carry an unloaded pistol with a magazine that is loaded in a vehicle? The pistol is in a locked container and the magazine is in a separate locked container.

    I have been told by some it is legal and by others it is not legal. I know that if the pistol only is in the locked container it is legal, but does the loaded magazine make it illegal even though they are in two separate containers with the same lock and/or lid?


    were did you purchase the magazine holder?

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    • #17
      Boxer
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 1499

      i got it from Ageis Safes, but Titan Vaults now sells them. Contact Titan Vaults and ask Matt the Owner for one. If they are not out now, they will be shortly.
      ~If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them~

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      • #18
        E Pluribus Unum
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2006
        • 8097

        Not again... my goodness people... USE THE SEARCH.


        Listen: Loaded carry and concealed carry are two different sections and have nothing to do with each other.

        Here is the law paraphrased:

        A) It is illegal to carry loaded in a vehicle.
        A loaded weapon is when unexpended ammunition is in a magazine and that magazine is inserted into the weapon OR when an unexpended round is in the chamber. EVERY OTHER SCENARIO IS UNLOADED AND LEGAL.

        B) It is illegal to carry a concealed weapon
        A weapon is concealed when it is either fully, or partially concealed.

        There is an exception to the concealed carry law that states IF you have your gun in a locked case, it can be carried concealed. IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT, only an exemption to concealed carry.

        So, you can carry your Glock on the seat next to you with a fully-loaded magazine duct taped to the gun and it is perfectly legal.

        In addition... if you are licensed and are on your way to hunt or fish, you can carry concealed without a CCW thanks to PC12027(g).
        Originally posted by Alan Gura
        The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
        Originally posted by hoffmang
        12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

        -Gene
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        • #19
          E Pluribus Unum
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2006
          • 8097

          One more thing:

          Any private citizen may arrest another person for any misdemeanor or felony crime committed in his presence.

          Any private citizen may possess a loaded weapon while performing a lawful arrest.

          This means if you are carrying your Glock in a holster and whitness a crime, you may load that weapon shortly before effecting an arrest of the offending party. This includes crimes against the arrestee.

          In short, if someone threatens you in person, attacks someone else, or breaks any other minor law in your presence you can load your weapon and re-holster it as you are effecting an arrest on the perpetrator.

          This is the same as a police officer. For misdemeanor offenses, a police officer must witness the action in order to arrest. (with few exception).


          Know your rights and refuse to be a victim!!
          Originally posted by Alan Gura
          The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
          Originally posted by hoffmang
          12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

          -Gene
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          • #20
            tombinghamthegreat
            Veteran Member
            • May 2007
            • 2785

            Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum

            B) It is illegal to carry a concealed weapon
            A weapon is concealed when it is either fully, or partially concealed.

            There is an exception to the concealed carry law that states IF you have your gun in a locked case, it can be carried concealed. IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT, only an exemption to concealed carry.
            Also long guns are non-concealable guns from the laws point of view so you could conceal a unloaded long gun without the locking requirement(except the k-12 school zone still require a locked container)
            "Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense." Ron Paul
            "The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." - Thomas Jefferson
            Originally posted by forumguy
            The same way they enforce all the rest of the BS laws. Only criminals are exempt, while the honest obey.
            Originally posted by bwiese
            Sometimes I think the function of Calguns is half to refute bad info from gunshops and half to refute bad info from DOJ.

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            • #21
              E Pluribus Unum
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2006
              • 8097

              Originally posted by tombinghamthegreat
              Also long guns are non-concealable guns from the laws point of view so you could conceal a unloaded long gun without the locking requirement(except the k-12 school zone still require a locked container)
              Well, I limited the scope to the lock box above... long guns wont fit in it.
              Originally posted by Alan Gura
              The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
              Originally posted by hoffmang
              12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

              -Gene
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