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  • dinkydau
    Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 394

    Overriding Gov. Brown regarding Bill374

    I attended the small gunshow in Antioch yesterday and overheard someone saying the legislature could override Gov Brown and pass 374 regarding semi-autos. Is this true and can they do that? I'm not in the political spectrum so I do know how it works.
    Can someone out there please enlighten me? Thanx!
  • #2
    jcwatchdog
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 2575

    Originally posted by dinkydau
    I attended the small gunshow in Antioch yesterday and overheard someone saying the legislature could override Gov Brown and pass 374 regarding semi-autos. Is this true and can they do that? I'm not in the political spectrum so I do know how it works.
    Can someone out there please enlighten me? Thanx!
    They don't have the votes for an override. Even if the democrats still had a super majority, not all democrats even supported this bill.

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    • #3
      Sir Stunna Lot
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 845

      technically, yes; but practically, no
      Hi

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      • #4
        Sgt Raven
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 3808

        Anyone who thinks this Democratic Legislature is going to over ride a Democratic Governor when they only able to pass the bill by one vote is smoking some real good stuff.....But at a gun show the dealers are going to say that to get you to buy some overpriced POS...........

        ETA: If you believe that, then I have this M4 copy that's almost just like the ones used by the Navy Seals to kill OBL........I'll sell it to you for $4,000.00. today.......
        Last edited by Sgt Raven; 10-13-2013, 4:43 AM.
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        • #5
          rromeo
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2009
          • 6981

          I don't think Steinberg would even try. Even if he had the Butts-in-Seats, he would probably be hard pressed to get a simple majority after what happened in Colorado. There will be no override.
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          • #6
            VictorFranko
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2010
            • 13737

            Originally posted by Sgt Raven
            Anyone who thinks this Democratic Legislature is going to over ride a Democratic Governor when they only able to pass the bill by one vote is smoking some real good stuff.....But at a gun show the dealers are going to say that to get you to buy some overpriced POS...........

            ETA: If you believe that, then I have this M4 copy that's almost just like the ones used by the Navy Seals to kill OBL........I'll sell it to you for $4,000.00. today.......
            Geez Sarge, the OP asked only a simple question in a polite manner so he could educate himself on the matter at hand........

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            • #7
              anthonyca
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2008
              • 6316

              We should call and write telling them to do it. We need to embolden and energize our side.

              PS. They don't have the votes.
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              I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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              • #8
                sd_shooter
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Dec 2008
                • 13289

                I thought the legislative session was already over, too late to over ride anything.

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                • #9
                  ChicoDan
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 131

                  Originally posted by dinkydau
                  I attended the small gunshow in Antioch yesterday and overheard someone saying the legislature could override Gov Brown and pass 374 regarding semi-autos. Is this true and can they do that? I'm not in the political spectrum so I do know how it works.
                  Can someone out there please enlighten me? Thanx!
                  Constitutionally, they could do that. But I don't see the votes as being there for it. Just no tthere.
                  ChicoDan

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                  • #10
                    prometa
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 563

                    Originally posted by dinkydau
                    I attended the small gunshow in Antioch yesterday and overheard someone saying the legislature could override Gov Brown and pass 374 regarding semi-autos. Is this true and can they do that? I'm not in the political spectrum so I do know how it works.
                    Can someone out there please enlighten me? Thanx!
                    I didn't see anyone directly answer your question of how it works. If both houses of our legislature get a 2/3s vote to override a veto, the bill will become law over the governor's objections.

                    As people are saying, the bill passed the legislature by one vote the first time. The chance that a bunch of people who voted against the bill to now support it is slim to none.
                    Last edited by prometa; 10-14-2013, 1:28 PM.
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                    As of 10/10 the Governor has 121 bills left on his desk to sign or veto by 10/13.

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                    • #11
                      a1c
                      CGSSA Coordinator
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 9098

                      Also, don't believe anything you hear at a gun show.
                      WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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                      • #12
                        prometa
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 563

                        Originally posted by sd_shooter
                        I thought the legislative session was already over, too late to over ride anything.
                        Our legislative sessions are two years long and this one ends in 2014. We are in recess now, not adjourned.

                        This means that the bills that didn't pass, like SB396, are still technically alive and can come back like a zombie at any time.
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                        As of 10/10 the Governor has 121 bills left on his desk to sign or veto by 10/13.

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                        • #13
                          RickD427
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                          • Jan 2007
                          • 9260

                          Originally posted by ChicoDan
                          Constitutionally, they could do that. But I don't see the votes as being there for it. Just no tthere.
                          ChicoDan
                          ^^^THIS^^^

                          In addition to the votes not being there, also please remember that we have a democratic party governor, and a democratic majority in the legislature. Party politics are going to prevent some of the members who voted for the bill, to support an override.

                          It looks like the process actually worked on this one and the Governor deserves some credit.

                          Of course, this years was still a net loss for gun owners. There's still a lot of work left to be done in Sacramento.
                          If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                          • #14
                            JMP
                            Internet Warrior
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 17056

                            The CA legislature could absolutely override it. They could choose to vote again and pass it with 2/3rds in both the assembly and senate. The amount of votes it had on its original passage to the governor is not relevant; many will vote a certain way or abstain for perception, depending on their district if they already know a bill will pass. This is the first CA legislature that has a Democrat 2/3rds supermajority in both the assembly and the senate, so we will how the choose to use their power.

                            That said, based on Steinberg's comments, I don't believe they'd attempt to override the veto.


                            “While I’m certainly disappointed with the Governor’s decision, I know he gave thoughtful consideration to balancing the issues raised in SB 374. We can agree to disagree, and will continue to work collaboratively for the benefit of all Californians.”

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                            • #15
                              SemperFi1775
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 715

                              Originally posted by prometa
                              Our legislative sessions are two years long and this one ends in 2014. We are in recess now, not adjourned.

                              This means that the bills that didn't pass, like SB396, are still technically alive and can come back like a zombie at any time.
                              yup, along with sb47...

                              the elites and power grabbers are not going to give up, they will come back with another bill next year to ban bb "aw"...
                              "What the hell happened to land of the free and home of the brave???"

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