BRAINSTORM - ID Support Base for Sheriff Candidates

[tango-52]

However, crime is actually down throughout SD county last I read. On that point, and although I'd be the first to point out the tenuous connection between crime rates and who sits as the top dog sheriff, that actually reflects well on Kolender right now.

It is easy to make crime rates go down. Make it very difficult, or just flat out refuse, to take crime reports. If it isn't written down, it didn't happen.

[GuyW]

However, crime is actually down throughout SD county last I read. On that point, and although I'd be the first to point out the tenuous connection between crime rates and who sits as the top dog sheriff, that actually reflects well on Kolender right now.

Well, as Jay points out, there are currently 80,000-100,000 outstanding arrest warrants in San Diego County. Doesn't sound like LE in general is quite getting the job done. 'Course, there's not currently jail space to put them....

So, I think the crime rate would go down yet again, if the warrant scofflaws were taken out of circulation...

...Is this cross-posted to the John Oliver's yahoo group?

I post on John's group. John's also posted here on another La Suer thread...

[CoinStar]

It is easy to make crime rates go down. Make it very difficult, or just flat out refuse, to take crime reports. If it isn't written down, it didn't happen.

Heh. I suppose that's an option.

However, it's unlikely that in an effort to appear to look effective, local PDs are simply refusing to take reports on the most egregious crimes; violent crimes inlcuding assault, rape and murder.

I don't think it's a matter of conspiracy. I believe what I read and was simply throwing out some food for thought, this being a thread for "brainstorming" and all.

[GuyW]

What I meant was not to count too heavily on the gun nut base being a large part of his support and that's just as a matter of statistics.

OK - this is a huge, HUGE issue in this campaign.

SOMEBODY has to be COUNTED UPON to be a large part of his support - why not citizens interested in self-defense in their businesses and with their families? The HELLER decision has blown away most of the false perceptions that gun owners are fringe nut-cases...

And if not us - WHO? (actually the subject of this thread - brainstorm "who"...)

Any candidate for any office pretty well has to have (or develop) a "base" of supporters. In most political races, this just happens naturally. In non-partisan races like, oh, County Treasurer, or Sheriff, political support doesn't necessarily just happen.

In this race, candidate Jim Duffy - former President of the Deputy Sheriffs Assoc (union) will have the vocal support and major $$ from the DSA who will create an "independent expenditure committee" to by-pass the basic fund-raising laws and pump big bucks into his run. Candidate Bill Gore will undoubtedly have similar funding.

The basic fund-raising laws are:
1. maximum $500 contribution per person per race (total for race), and
2. No corporate donations - individuals only.

Running this race to win takes $1 million dollars...this is why he started his campaign early - to raise the necessary money.

So (these are my conclusions)...

...(setting aside independent expenditure commitees) Jay's race CANNOT and WILL NOT be funded by a relatively few wealthy individuals or corporations. The funds to run this race must come from the grassroots (ie, US).

He needs money to overcome the FREE campaign advertising that his opponents will get from the U-T, TV stations, etc. under the rubric of "reporting the news"....not to mention newspaper endorsements..

He will need money to mail information (early, before mail-in ballots) to counteract the efforts of the downtown political crowd (Dumanis et al) - which will involve well-funded "independent expenditure" organizations...

Going with MY guestimate that he needs $1 million to win, that is 2000 individuals kicking in $500 ea....

(Note my CONCERN that getting 20,000 individuals kicking in $50 ea to make $1 million is not a doable goal for gun rights activists, because I'm dubious that we can reach that many to contribute...and gun owners are probably the most motivated citizens in Jay's race. My GUESS is that the funds to run this race come from US. Hence, $500 ea MUST be our goal)

San Diego County residents who want a Sheriff who will give them a fair shot at a CCW, and be tough on crime, need to support Jay La Suer WITH THEIR MONEY FIRST and vote (SECOND).

As one example, $50 per month will max you out in 10 months. (and remember, more than one member of a family CAN contribute).

What is your family's safety worth to you?

What do you think your family's safety is worth to Sheriff Kolender's hand-picked successor?

[CoinStar]

OK - this is a huge, HUGE issue in this campaign.

SOMEBODY has to be COUNTED UPON to be a large part of his support - why not citizens interested in self-defense in their businesses and with their families?

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for it which is why I'll be on board to volunteer actual manpower rather than just money to a campaign if needed.

What I'm saying is that there is a finite amount of support which can be drawn from those whose sole interest is going to be CCW and/or general RKBA support. I have my reservations about counting on them to be the backbone of his campaign. I would guess that Jay would too given that the grassroots efforts of gun owners rarely gets past the fertilizer stage. I know that firsthand; it's not a flame on anyone.

You're certainly correct with your assessment of the entrenched imcumbency of potential Kolender successors. They will have the upper hand for sure.

I took a glance at his current list of endorsements again and it's still as vague as it was before (which doesn't help with the gist of what this thread is calling for); there are various local business owners and individuals whose names I don't immediately recognize.

Rather than simply guessing, perhaps you should contact his campaign and simply ask what they'd like to see from willing gun owners to help him out?

I dunno... it might be a better starting point and potentially more beneficial to him in the long run.

[CoinStar]

Going with MY guestimate that he needs $1 million to win, that is 2000 individuals kicking in $500 ea....

You were involved with the latest RKBA initiative drive a couple years back, right?

Think how hard it was to find 2000 gun nuts willing to simply provide their name and address and sign it all onto a form. I'm dubious that 2000 local ones will donate $500, nevermind the more even spread of 20k donors at merely $50 a pop.

That's what I'm saying. So sure, let's get out the vote to gunnies, but let's be reasonable as to what to expect.

[CoinStar]

Here's my suggestion:

Let's start at the top and get NRA, CRPA or whoever else on board first, then hit up individual donors for their money.

So far, the only recognizable progun group on Jay's list of endorsements is the oft-villified GOC.

[GuyW]

Just added "recycling centers" after reading an article in the Ramona newpaper about a company there that has been refused a "scrap metal license" by the Sheriffs Dept

http://www.ramonasentinel.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=1&twindow=Default&mad=No&sdetail=5860&wpage=&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=1085&hn=ramonasentinel&he=.com

[GuyW]

Here's a list of all the licenses the SD Co Sheriff issues:

Adult Entertainment Establishment
Aircraft Ticket Brokers
Alarm Systems
Amusement Establishment and Devices
Amusement/Go-Cart Centers
Bathhouses
Bingo
Carnivals
Casino Parties
Charitable Solicitations
Concealed Weapons
Coupon Books, Distribution of
Dances and Dance Hall, Adult Dances, Teenage
Entertainment
* Entertainers
* Entertainment Managers
Explosives
Firearms, Sale of
Fireworks
Fortune Telling
Holistic Health Practitioners
Junk, Automotive Wrecking, Non-Operating Vehicle Storage Yards
Massage Establishment
* Massage Technician
* Massage Technician Trainee
Off-premise Massage
Outdoor Assemblages
Outdoor Assemblage Managers
Pawnbrokers/Second Hand Dealers
Shooting Ranges
Solicitors
* License
* Identification Cards
Swap Meets and Swap Lots
Taxicab, Taxicab Driver
* Operator's License
* Driver's Identification Card
* Driver Qualification Testing
* Dept. Of Trans. Drug Testing

http://www.sdsheriff.net/mgt_serv/licensing/licensing1.html

[GuyW]

I must add this SOBERING insight that I received from a 2006 Orange County Sheriff's candidate:

"It's virtually impossible to unseat an incumbent, as I learned the hard way. And you'll never do it over one issue, especially when the people who believe in that issue don't step up and take action."

What an INDICTMENT of the pro-gun community....
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[GuyW]

bump for newbies

[cousinkix1953]

I got a gut feeling that Kolender will be sheriff. Hes been it for 12 years so far. I hope we get a CCW friendly Sheriff...

You guys can't get rid of Kolander in San Diego? It's a different story in Santa Cruz county. Mark Tracy burned out in the middle of his four year term. He continued to receive his salary, after being replaced by Steve Robbins. Now Robbins has burned out too, telling everybody that he has family problems. They still haven't officially replaced him yet.

Meanwhile, San Diego police chief, Bill Lansdowne is the number one choice to replace the retiring San Francisco chief, Heather Fong according to the TV newscasts up north. Looks like you'll be rid of this Joseph McNamara proge who was recruited from the San Jose PD several years ago...