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  • aileron
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3272

    Looks Like Hoffmang is right, heller next week

    Heller wasn't released today. So its next week for us. More waiting.

    Originally posted by ScotusBlog
    Tom Goldstein -

    For Heller fans, the correct count for March is that two cases remain -- Rothgery (involving the right to counsel) and Heller -- and Justices Scalia and Souter have not yet written in that sitting.

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    The next opinion day is Monday. There will certainly be one or possibly two additional opinion days next week. Wednesday and Thursday are most likely.
    Look at the tyranny of party -- at what is called party allegiance, party loyalty -- a snare invented by designing men for selfish purposes -- and which turns voters into chattles, slaves, rabbits, and all the while their masters, and they themselves are shouting rubbish about liberty, independence, freedom of opinion, freedom of speech, honestly unconscious of the fantastic contradiction... Mark Twain

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    M. Sage
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    • Jul 2006
    • 19759

    Shhh, you'll just make him harder to deal with.
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    • #3
      Pvt. Cowboy
      Banned
      • Oct 2006
      • 2688

      If Scalia and Souter are the two justices remaining who haven't yet finished their opinions in Heller, all I can say is that this worries me.

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      • #4
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        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2007
        • 11540

        I will light a candle of the virgin Mary for this to be a favorable decision....
        Originally posted by tankerman
        I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.
        Originally posted by Douglas711
        Is everybody stocking up on guys now? Just curious some gun prices seem to be getting high.

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        • #5
          sniperzeb308
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 32

          What will or can we do if a majority of people don't like the decision. How will the country react if they rule that we don't have a 2nd ammendment right but that they have ruled that terrorist have as much or more rights then Americans?
          What legal recourse can we take if we don't like the decision?

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          • #6
            tango-52
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 779

            Originally posted by Pvt. Cowboy
            If Scalia and Souter are the two justices remaining who haven't yet finished their opinions in Heller, all I can say is that this worries me.
            I think that what they were saying is that those two haven't been the lead writer for opinions (majority or minority) in any cases from March, not that they were waiting for those two to finish their individual opinions.
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              RomanDad
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              • Apr 2008
              • 3478

              Originally posted by Pvt. Cowboy
              If Scalia and Souter are the two justices remaining who haven't yet finished their opinions in Heller, all I can say is that this worries me.
              No... It means there are two cases from the MARCH session that have not yet been released, and two justices have not yet written opinions for any of the cases heard in March... Meaning its fairly likely (but not CERTAIN), that each of them will write one of the remaining opinions.

              Meaning there is nearly a 50% chance Scalia is writing Heller.
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              • #8
                RomanDad
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                • Apr 2008
                • 3478

                Originally posted by sniperzeb308
                What will or can we do if a majority of people don't like the decision. How will the country react if they rule that we don't have a 2nd ammendment right but that they have ruled that terrorist have as much or more rights then Americans?
                What legal recourse can we take if we don't like the decision?
                Only recourse: Constitutional Amendment.
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                  GJJ
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 423

                  Other recourse: non compliance and/or active resistance.

                  (I am just saying...)

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                  • #10
                    Pvt. Cowboy
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 2688

                    Originally posted by RomanDad
                    No... It means there are two cases from the MARCH session that have not yet been released, and two justices have not yet written opinions for any of the cases heard in March...
                    I hope that's right, because Justice Souter wrote two opinions today shortly after what we're talking about was written.

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                    • #11
                      Subvertz
                      Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 216

                      Originally posted by Pvt. Cowboy
                      I hope that's right, because Justice Souter wrote two opinions today shortly after what we're talking about was written.
                      That sounds promising....
                      "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour." George Washington, Address to 1st session of Congress

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                      • #12
                        RomanDad
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 3478

                        Originally posted by Pvt. Cowboy
                        I hope that's right, because Justice Souter wrote two opinions today shortly after what we're talking about was written.
                        Were they from the March session of the Court?
                        [Edit- Released Chamber of Commerce this morning-]
                        Last edited by RomanDad; 06-19-2008, 8:34 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Pvt. Cowboy
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2688

                          Originally posted by RomanDad
                          Were they from the March session of the Court?
                          [Edit- Released Chamber of Commerce this morning-]
                          That I don't know. I've really only been following Heller. Even though I admit that I should be educating myself on all of SCOTUS's rulings like a good citizen, I just have little interest in cases like "Topeka KS Board of Realtors v. Kansas State Public Employee Retirement System".

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                            bulgron
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 2783

                            Originally posted by GJJ
                            Other recourse: non compliance and/or active resistance.

                            (I am just saying...)
                            Widespread civil disobedience got prohibition repealed.

                            If every gun owner in America refused to turn in their arms, and demanded to be arrested and then also demanded their trial, the judicial system would break under the load.

                            But of course even a bad ruling on Heller wouldn't result in instant confiscation. That would come over time, little by little, so as to not enrage America.

                            But I don't think we'll get a bad decision on Heller, so there's no point in thinking about unhappy things until we have to.
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                              RomanDad
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                              • Apr 2008
                              • 3478

                              Originally posted by bulgron
                              Widespread civil disobedience got prohibition repealed.

                              If every gun owner in America refused to turn in their arms, and demanded to be arrested and then also demanded their trial, the judicial system would break under the load.

                              But of course even a bad ruling on Heller wouldn't result in instant confiscation. That would come over time, little by little, so as to not enrage America.

                              Relax... The lower courts have held for 70 years that the 2nd is a "collective right" and aside from a few hiccups here and there, we still have guns, there hasnt been any "confiscation", and 75% of the people LIKE IT THAT WAY.

                              Originally posted by Pvt. Cowboy
                              That I don't know. I've really only been following Heller. Even though I admit that I should be educating myself on all of SCOTUS's rulings like a good citizen, I just have little interest in cases like "Topeka KS Board of Realtors v. Kansas State Public Employee Retirement System".
                              I was going to start a thread on "Corn Products Refining v Commissioner of Internal Revenue"... Just a fascinating case on the accounting of future capital assets... Are you saying you wont participate?
                              Last edited by RomanDad; 06-19-2008, 9:28 AM.
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