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Always go for the head .
I agree, as high up as possible. That kind of determination and brazenness will strike fear in those lower down the food chain. They'll be much more timid going forward.
Not sure Brown is the best target, on another thread Kamala Harris' name came up. She for SURE is anti 2A, and has higher State office aspirations; besides, she's very high profile and high on the list of future important Dems on a national level too.Comment
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If he signs these bills, they will have to continually sweep the high speed rail tracks for the occasional bullet button or outlawed magazine.
"Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
- Thomas Paine, Common Sense
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
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Exactly this.
If you're expecting to go after an assemblymember or senator in a heavily entrenched Democratic enclave like San Francisco or Los Angeles, you're barking up the wrong tree. The votes simply won't be there... waste of time, money and political capital.
On the other hand, I'm sure we can dissect the vote tallies and figure out which of the representatives who voted AYE on these bills come from more conservative or moderate areas. Those are the representatives who are most vulnerable, and they are the ones who should be targeted for a recall.
Follow this link and compare percentages, district by district:
At a quick glance, the following district are currently Democratic-party controlled, and were won with around 55% or less of the vote in the 2012 election. That can be quickly swayed with getting enough moderates onboard.
State Assembly:
District 8: Ken Cooley-D, 54.3% of the vote
District 32: Rudy Salas-D 52.9% of the vote
District 36: Steve Fox-D 50.1% of the vote
District 65: Sharon Quirk-Silva-D, 52.0% of the vote
District 66: Al Murastsuchi-D, 54.8% of the vote
State Senate:
District 5: Cathleen Galgiani-D 50.5% of the vote
District 19: Hannah-Beth Jackson 55.7% of the vote
District 27: Fran Pavley-D 53.6% of the vote
District 31: Richard Roth-D 55.3% of the vote
So now it's a matter of cross-referencing their voting records on these bills and seeing who which of these representatives could feasibly be recalled.Last edited by Frito Bandido; 09-11-2013, 10:57 PM.~ El Frito
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My reasoning for Brown it that its statewide and will get more press and he has veto power!Always go for the head .
I agree, as high up as possible. That kind of determination and brazenness will strike fear in those lower down the food chain. They'll be much more timid going forward.
Not sure Brown is the best target, on another thread Kamala Harris' name came up. She for SURE is anti 2A, and has higher State office aspirations; besides, she's very high profile and high on the list of future important Dems on a national level too.
If we go for Brown we can put signature gathers a every gun show and sporting good store in the state without worrying about districts?
The cable companies have control over the network and will not even allow pro gun ads last I heard?Comment
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You will also want to verify who is "termed out" at the end of their current term. Recalling termed out officials may send a good message but will probably not be very effective in the short run.State Assembly:
District 8: Ken Cooley-D, 54.3% of the vote
District 32: Rudy Salas-D 52.9% of the vote
District 36: Steve Fox-D 50.1% of the vote
District 65: Sharon Quirk-Silva-D, 52.0% of the vote
District 66: Al Murastsuchi-D, 54.8% of the vote
State Senate:
District 5: Cathleen Galgiani-D 50.5% of the vote
District 19: Hannah-Beth Jackson 55.7% of the vote
District 27: Fran Pavley-D 53.6% of the vote
District 31: Richard Roth-D 55.3% of the vote
So now it's a matter of cross-referencing their voting records on these bills and seeing who which of these representatives could feasibly be recalled.
-RuskieThe Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.
-Hon. Alex Kozinski (Silvera v Lockyer, 2003)Comment
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grey davis got recalled, three strikes law no longer exist ( rescinded law, thousands of criminals released to a neighborhood near you), and gay couples can get married. . with over a million registered gun owners in california a recall can be done, to rescind all those bans and restore our 2A rights. look at colorado, as soon as the money (magpul)left that state they started a recall.Comment
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Yes, and also cross-reference how their voting record vis-a-vis the gun control measures looks. That depth of checking and verification requires a little more time than what I've sunk into the research up to this point. I am a very busy guy lol.~ El Frito
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That's our biggest problem is that we think we can take out a liberal Governor and replace him with someone who thinks like we do. There is NO way that will happen in CA with current demographics.My reasoning for Brown it that its statewide and will get more press and he has veto power!
If we go for Brown we can put signature gathers a every gun show and sporting good store in the state without worrying about districts?
The cable companies have control over the network and will not even allow pro gun ads last I heard?
We have to start small and move up. Start with replacing vulnerable assembly members with the goal first, of breaking the Dem supermajority. Even with more than a third representation and less than half, we can hold up most of the nonsense before it even hits the floor.
Just as they eat up our rights in baby steps, we take back control with baby steps. Stop trying to kill the giant in one hit with a stick and start taking out his toes one at a time."Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"Comment
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The CO initiative got a LOT of media attention with many sheriffs and police who openly rejected to enforce the new laws.grey davis got recalled, three strikes law no longer exist ( rescinded law, thousands of criminals released to a neighborhood near you), and gay couples can get married. . with over a million registered gun owners in california a recall can be done, to rescind all those bans and restore our 2A rights. look at colorado, as soon as the money (magpul)left that state they started a recall.
We won't get that kind of support in CA.
We DO have sheer numbers in CA but getting everybody involved is the biggest challenge."Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"Comment
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