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  • Michaellee223
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 26

    Anyone up for a challenge?



    I just read this post by one calgunner today. I'm thinking, how about focusing on one of their weakest link? Let's focus on ousting one solid anti 2A. One that can easily falter. It's a lot easier than battling them all together. Let's vote him/her out... Any ideas?
  • #2
    stix213
    AKA: Joe Censored
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2009
    • 18998

    You can only vote someone out if you have someone lined up to vote in. Once you find someone pro-gun to vote in who can carry 50+% of the vote, you'll know what district you'll target to vote the current occupant out.

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    • #3
      3006
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 939

      No doubt it should be Brown if he sign's these pending bills !
      Even if we don't win it will bring lots of press and cost him and the democrats money to defend him? Always go for the head .

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      • #4
        hadjin
        Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 390

        Always go for the head .

        I agree, as high up as possible. That kind of determination and brazenness will strike fear in those lower down the food chain. They'll be much more timid going forward.

        Not sure Brown is the best target, on another thread Kamala Harris' name came up. She for SURE is anti 2A, and has higher State office aspirations; besides, she's very high profile and high on the list of future important Dems on a national level too.

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        • #5
          rob1105
          Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 221

          We threw Grey Davis out we can throw Brown out too

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          • #6
            bbguns44
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 1182

            If Charles Heston was alive today, he couldn't be elected. The conservatives are so fragmented there is no chance of voting for the same candidate.

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            • #7
              Lost.monkey
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 583

              Make an example of DeLeon
              NRA Life Member
              Oathkeeper Life Member

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              • #8
                totus44
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 675

                If he signs these bills, they will have to continually sweep the high speed rail tracks for the occasional bullet button or outlawed magazine.
                "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
                - Thomas Paine, Common Sense

                "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
                - Thomas Paine, The Crisis

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                • #9
                  Frito Bandido
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 718

                  Originally posted by stix213
                  You can only vote someone out if you have someone lined up to vote in. Once you find someone pro-gun to vote in who can carry 50+% of the vote, you'll know what district you'll target to vote the current occupant out.
                  Exactly this.

                  If you're expecting to go after an assemblymember or senator in a heavily entrenched Democratic enclave like San Francisco or Los Angeles, you're barking up the wrong tree. The votes simply won't be there... waste of time, money and political capital.

                  On the other hand, I'm sure we can dissect the vote tallies and figure out which of the representatives who voted AYE on these bills come from more conservative or moderate areas. Those are the representatives who are most vulnerable, and they are the ones who should be targeted for a recall.

                  Follow this link and compare percentages, district by district:




                  At a quick glance, the following district are currently Democratic-party controlled, and were won with around 55% or less of the vote in the 2012 election. That can be quickly swayed with getting enough moderates onboard.

                  State Assembly:

                  District 8: Ken Cooley-D, 54.3% of the vote
                  District 32: Rudy Salas-D 52.9% of the vote
                  District 36: Steve Fox-D 50.1% of the vote
                  District 65: Sharon Quirk-Silva-D, 52.0% of the vote
                  District 66: Al Murastsuchi-D, 54.8% of the vote

                  State Senate:
                  District 5: Cathleen Galgiani-D 50.5% of the vote
                  District 19: Hannah-Beth Jackson 55.7% of the vote
                  District 27: Fran Pavley-D 53.6% of the vote
                  District 31: Richard Roth-D 55.3% of the vote

                  So now it's a matter of cross-referencing their voting records on these bills and seeing who which of these representatives could feasibly be recalled.
                  Last edited by Frito Bandido; 09-11-2013, 10:57 PM.
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                  • #10
                    3006
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 939

                    Originally posted by hadjin
                    Always go for the head .

                    I agree, as high up as possible. That kind of determination and brazenness will strike fear in those lower down the food chain. They'll be much more timid going forward.

                    Not sure Brown is the best target, on another thread Kamala Harris' name came up. She for SURE is anti 2A, and has higher State office aspirations; besides, she's very high profile and high on the list of future important Dems on a national level too.
                    My reasoning for Brown it that its statewide and will get more press and he has veto power!
                    If we go for Brown we can put signature gathers a every gun show and sporting good store in the state without worrying about districts?
                    The cable companies have control over the network and will not even allow pro gun ads last I heard?

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                    • #11
                      RuskieShooter
                      Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 468

                      Originally posted by Frito Bandido
                      State Assembly:

                      District 8: Ken Cooley-D, 54.3% of the vote
                      District 32: Rudy Salas-D 52.9% of the vote
                      District 36: Steve Fox-D 50.1% of the vote
                      District 65: Sharon Quirk-Silva-D, 52.0% of the vote
                      District 66: Al Murastsuchi-D, 54.8% of the vote

                      State Senate:
                      District 5: Cathleen Galgiani-D 50.5% of the vote
                      District 19: Hannah-Beth Jackson 55.7% of the vote
                      District 27: Fran Pavley-D 53.6% of the vote
                      District 31: Richard Roth-D 55.3% of the vote

                      So now it's a matter of cross-referencing their voting records on these bills and seeing who which of these representatives could feasibly be recalled.
                      You will also want to verify who is "termed out" at the end of their current term. Recalling termed out officials may send a good message but will probably not be very effective in the short run.

                      -Ruskie
                      The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.

                      -Hon. Alex Kozinski (Silvera v Lockyer, 2003)

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                      • #12
                        qdx450
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 416

                        grey davis got recalled, three strikes law no longer exist ( rescinded law, thousands of criminals released to a neighborhood near you), and gay couples can get married. . with over a million registered gun owners in california a recall can be done, to rescind all those bans and restore our 2A rights. look at colorado, as soon as the money (magpul)left that state they started a recall.

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                        • #13
                          Frito Bandido
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 718

                          Originally posted by RuskieShooter
                          You will also want to verify who is "termed out" at the end of their current term. Recalling termed out officials may send a good message but will probably not be very effective in the short run.

                          -Ruskie
                          Yes, and also cross-reference how their voting record vis-a-vis the gun control measures looks. That depth of checking and verification requires a little more time than what I've sunk into the research up to this point. I am a very busy guy lol.
                          ~ El Frito

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                          • #14
                            Fritz265
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 1523

                            Originally posted by 3006
                            My reasoning for Brown it that its statewide and will get more press and he has veto power!
                            If we go for Brown we can put signature gathers a every gun show and sporting good store in the state without worrying about districts?
                            The cable companies have control over the network and will not even allow pro gun ads last I heard?
                            That's our biggest problem is that we think we can take out a liberal Governor and replace him with someone who thinks like we do. There is NO way that will happen in CA with current demographics.

                            We have to start small and move up. Start with replacing vulnerable assembly members with the goal first, of breaking the Dem supermajority. Even with more than a third representation and less than half, we can hold up most of the nonsense before it even hits the floor.

                            Just as they eat up our rights in baby steps, we take back control with baby steps. Stop trying to kill the giant in one hit with a stick and start taking out his toes one at a time.
                            "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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                            • #15
                              Fritz265
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 1523

                              Originally posted by qdx450
                              grey davis got recalled, three strikes law no longer exist ( rescinded law, thousands of criminals released to a neighborhood near you), and gay couples can get married. . with over a million registered gun owners in california a recall can be done, to rescind all those bans and restore our 2A rights. look at colorado, as soon as the money (magpul)left that state they started a recall.
                              The CO initiative got a LOT of media attention with many sheriffs and police who openly rejected to enforce the new laws.

                              We won't get that kind of support in CA.

                              We DO have sheer numbers in CA but getting everybody involved is the biggest challenge.
                              "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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