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  • #16
    Tincon
    Mortuus Ergo Invictus
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2012
    • 5062

    Originally posted by ja308
    the CGF membership
    CGF doesn't have members.
    My posts may contain general information related to the law, however, THEY ARE NOT LEGAL ADVICE AND I AM NOT A LAWYER. I recommend you consult a lawyer if you want legal advice. No attorney-client or confidential relationship exists or will be formed between myself and any other person on the basis of these posts. Pronouns I may use (such as "you" and "your") do NOT refer to any particular person under any circumstance.

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    • #17
      taperxz
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2010
      • 19395

      Originally posted by chainsaw
      Completely agree with you there. While gunnies have little chance of derailing Senator Yee's political career, he has been doing a pretty fine job of damaging that himself. On the other hand, the position of SOS is not actually very desirable (it's lot of work, unlike treasurer or controller, and has little visibility and tends to be a career ending move), so it's possible he will run de-facto unopposed on the democratic side.

      As far as other democrats not liking Senator Yee goes: Remember how SB 249 was defeated last year? While pro-gun forces (in particular Wildhawker and the CGF) love to take credit for that, the reality is that Yee's bill was killed by Steinberg and friends. They may have used arguments cribbed from the writings of gunnies, but the real cause was a raw power play: someone of the seniority and cluelessness of Yee wasn't allowed to be where he wanted to be. It's like high school: if a freshman makes the mistake of trying to hang out in the area where seniors congregate, trouble will ensue. This has nothing to do with his legal defeats, and everything with "who plays nice in the sandbox and shares the toys".

      Senator Yee is not popular with the rest of the Sacramento power brokers. I don't know whether he has a serious base in San Francisco, from which he can conquer a statewide position or not.
      LOL! Yee has a better chance with his supporters outside of his district than inside his district! He really disenfranchised the Chinese community in San Francisco too. Not much support for his own any more. Notice how he wasn't even a factor in the Mayors race in SF

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      • #18
        ja308
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2009
        • 12660

        Originally posted by Tincon
        CGF doesn't have members.
        I copied from chainsaws post .
        Although I consider myself a member of CALGUNS, since I mailed them a check

        Regretfully the check will not stop the ban hammer when it comes down

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        • #19
          five.five-six
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2006
          • 34753

          Originally posted by DannyInSoCal
          Whenever I read these "we should do....." posts about how to defeat the anti-gun political hacks -

          That great bathroom scene from the movie Fight Club runs through my head....
          The thing is this, people like Yee car about one thing and one thing only, living on the public dime. Nothing scares them more than the thought of the gravy train ending, well that and having to buy suntan lotion so that's 2 things he is scared of.


          Genius I tell you, sponsor a bill to put a 200%tax on suntan lotion.

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          • #20
            taperxz
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2010
            • 19395

            Originally posted by ja308
            I copied from chainsaws post .
            Although I consider myself a member of CALGUNS, since I mailed them a check

            Regretfully the check will not stop the ban hammer when it comes down
            CGF (501 c3) has no ban hammer. Only Calguns.net does. (the forum)

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            • #21
              IVC
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2010
              • 17594

              Originally posted by ja308
              So pro-gun people would have to hold their nose, and support a liberal politician.
              Not supporting anyone, just voting against Yee.

              If you look at it from a different angle, voting for Yee's opponent cancels one vote for Yee. It's not a vote of confidence for the opponent, but taking away a single vote from Yee.

              Most would be more than happy to take away a vote from Yee.
              sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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              • #22
                chainsaw
                Banned
                • Jan 2007
                • 660

                Originally posted by IVC
                Most would be more than happy to take away a vote from Yee.
                Most of what? Most voters in his Senate district are willing to vote for him (enough to get him elected). Most people in California would be willing to vote for him, if all they knew about him was his party affiliation. His anti-gun activities would win him voters in California, not lose them.

                How many members does this forum have? Let it be 100,000. So now let's see. Of those, probably 90% are hardcore republicans anyway, and would never vote for Yee anyhow. That leaves maybe 10,000 willing to vote for a democrat. The typical age of the Calguns poster is around 20 to 30. In that age group, turnout at elections is somewhere between 25 and 50% (it's probably lower among the Calguns crowd, because of its anti-government and libertarian leaning, which usually comes with low turnout). So that leaves perhaps 3,000 or 4,000 votes that Yee might have received from Calguns members, which you can maybe turn around.

                In a statewide race of democrat versus republican, the democrat will probably win with a margin of several million votes. If you can cause "most" people here on Calguns to vote your way, you could maybe sway a few thousand votes.

                Let me turn it into a joke: What part of "irrelevant" don't you understand?

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                • #23
                  IVC
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 17594

                  Originally posted by chainsaw
                  Where massing voting power might be a really good idea is the position of County Sheriff, in all but the most liberal counties.
                  Not sure about your analysis.

                  Sheriff elections tend to be a slam dunk for the incumbent due to the CA law requiring that the challenger must be someone working for the incumbent. Lee Baca was famous for retaliating against challengers.

                  On the other hand, when running for general offices even in very liberal locations where two far left candidates are splitting the LGBT/abortion/anti religious/etc. votes, a group of people with a common interest, if voting in coordinated manner, can actually decide who gets into the office. This is the "power of Ohio" in presidential elections - the swing vote.
                  sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                  • #24
                    IVC
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 17594

                    Originally posted by chainsaw
                    In a statewide race of democrat versus republican, the democrat will probably win with ...
                    The idea is to have a top two primary system where it's democrat against another democrat and both persons pander to the same crowd.
                    sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                    • #25
                      ja308
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 12660

                      Originally posted by taperxz
                      CGF (501 c3) has no ban hammer. Only Calguns.net does. (the forum)

                      Thank you ! Because of your post, I see the difference.
                      I will edit my post to credit chainsaw who I responded to in the 1 st post
                      Last edited by ja308; 08-27-2013, 12:49 AM.

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                      • #26
                        taperxz
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 19395

                        Originally posted by chainsaw
                        Most of what? Most voters in his Senate district are willing to vote for him (enough to get him elected). Most people in California would be willing to vote for him, if all they knew about him was his party affiliation. His anti-gun activities would win him voters in California, not lose them.

                        How many members does this forum have? Let it be 100,000. So now let's see. Of those, probably 90% are hardcore republicans anyway, and would never vote for Yee anyhow. That leaves maybe 10,000 willing to vote for a democrat. The typical age of the Calguns poster is around 20 to 30. In that age group, turnout at elections is somewhere between 25 and 50% (it's probably lower among the Calguns crowd, because of its anti-government and libertarian leaning, which usually comes with low turnout). So that leaves perhaps 3,000 or 4,000 votes that Yee might have received from Calguns members, which you can maybe turn around.

                        In a statewide race of democrat versus republican, the democrat will probably win with a margin of several million votes. If you can cause "most" people here on Calguns to vote your way, you could maybe sway a few thousand votes.

                        Let me turn it into a joke: What part of "irrelevant" don't you understand?
                        Not really any more since the district was changed midstream of his term.

                        I do agree that SOS is Mr. Irrelevant in the grand scheme of things in politics though in this state.

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                        • #27
                          stix213
                          AKA: Joe Censored
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 18998

                          Originally posted by Tincon
                          CGF doesn't have members.
                          As Gene has posted before, CGF members are those who have donated within the past year.

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                          • #28
                            taperxz
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 19395

                            Originally posted by stix213
                            As Gene has posted before, CGF members are those who have donated within the past year.
                            Is that his declaration or is that considered a legal determination in courts for standing in a lawsuit?

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                            • #29
                              pastureofmuppets
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 1805

                              Originally posted by chainsaw
                              Most people in California would be willing to vote for him, if all they knew about him was his party affiliation.
                              This is a very sad truth.
                              Host of the FAST OC podcast.

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                              • #30
                                2nd Mass
                                Veteran Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 3212

                                Yee needs to be the poster child for unemployed politicians that push bs gun control. He needs to lose whatever additional office he goes after. There are many ways to achieve this.

                                There are already many powerful asian associations that are not happy with him they just need to be reminded that they're not happy with him around election time.

                                Basically everyone just needs to remember him when he runs again. The new city attorney of LA wrote the microstamping law and 2 days before his election there was a thread. 2 days! Not a week, not a month, but 2 freakin days. Perfect example of how quickly people forget about these bad politicians enabling them to be elected/re-elected. There needs to be a push to keep them out of office at every opportunity. Starting with Yee should be easy considering his background.

                                Btw, I think TMZ works with freelancers so yes, a few people with gopros could probably help. If they catch anything fishy, send it to TMZ. Might even get paid for it.

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