Legal Question

[Timthetwin]

Hi Guys,
So I have a hypothetical situation and question. Suppose an individuals grandparent handed a handgun down to them, that had not been registered since the 80's. Furthermore, suppose this individual wanted to register said handgun, and make it completely legal. In addition, lets say this individual is 18 years of age. On a hypothetical basis, what are the EXACT steps such and individual would take in such a situation to legally register the handgun???

Thanks

~TtT

[Findout]

You have to be 21 years old to acquire a handgun in California, so an 18 year old would not be able to at all.

As for the rest, I can't say.

[Timthetwin]

You can legally possess a handgun in Cali at 18, someone must purchase then do intra fam transfer

[ke6guj]

You have to be 21 years old to acquire a handgun in California, so an 18 year old would not be able to at all.

As for the rest, I can't say.

that would be incorrect. an 18-year-old CAN legally acquire a handgun from a CA-resident parent or grandparent. he would need to get his HSC card and file an intra-family transfer notification form iwth CADOJ, but he can legally do that.

Or, as an 18-year-old, he can legally make his own CA-legal handgun.

[Timthetwin]

Thanks for all the feed back guys. So what will the final cost be? It says 19 bucks to file the transfer form. If there are multiple hanguns on the form will it cost more?

[Dvrjon]

Hi Guys,
So I have a hypothetical situation and question. Suppose an individuals grandparent handed a handgun down to them, that had not been registered since the 80's. Furthermore, suppose this individual wanted to register said handgun, and make it completely legal. In addition, lets say this individual is 18 years of age. On a hypothetical basis, what are the EXACT steps such and individual would take in such a situation to legally register the handgun???

Thanks

~TtT

Hypothetically:
1. Read this: http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#3

2. File this: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/ag...rms/oplaw.pdf?

$19 per form; no limit on guns on the form. From the reverse of the form:
Report of Operation of Law or Intra-Familial Transaction Submission Requirements
Individuals must submit this application for one or more handguns with a fee of $19.00

JR

[Dvrjon]

You have to be 21 years old to acquire a handgun in California, so an 18 year old would not be able to at all.

As for the rest, I can't say.

But the Penal Code CAN say.

27875. Section 27545 does not apply to the transfer of a handgun,
and commencing January 1, 2014, any firearm, by gift, bequest,
intestate succession, or other means from one individual to another,
if all of the following requirements are met:
(a) The transfer is infrequent, as defined in Section 16730.
(b) The transfer is between members of the same immediate family.
(c) Within 30 days of taking possession of the firearm, the person
to whom it is transferred shall forward by prepaid mail, or deliver
in person to the Department of Justice, a report that includes
information concerning the individual taking possession of the
firearm, how title was obtained and from whom, and a description of
the firearm in question. The report forms that individuals complete
pursuant to this section shall be provided to them by the Department
of Justice.
(d) The person taking title to the firearm shall first obtain a
handgun safety certificate, if the firearm is a handgun.
(e) The person receiving the firearm is 18 years of age or older.

Cheers.

JR

[stix213]

You have to be 21 years old to acquire a handgun in California, so an 18 year old would not be able to at all.

As for the rest, I can't say.

Owning is legal, buying through an FFL is not, but buying is not the only way to acquire.

My understanding is you'll need to get your HSC, and then pay the $19 and file the form already linked above.

[Timthetwin]

What if the handgun(s) were given a few years ago, and said individual has just looked into registering them?

[Librarian]

What if the handgun(s) were given a few years ago, and said individual has just looked into registering them?

The hypothetical grandparents should have asked about this at the time they hypothetically thought to give a handgun to a minor.

(You do realize, I hope, that questions in more detail tend to shrink that 'hypothetical' fig-leaf quite a bit.)

[Timthetwin]

The hypothetical grandparents should have asked about this at the time they hypothetically thought to give a handgun to a minor.

(You do realize, I hope, that questions in more detail tend to shrink that 'hypothetical' fig-leaf quite a bit.)

No minors were involved. hahah yes the fig leaf is hypothetically shrinking.

[Dvrjon]

Hypothetically, the hypothesizer would hypothesize that hypothetical intra-familial transfers are hypothetically analogous to actual registration requirements under sections 27560 or 27565 for persons bringing firearms into California. In those real, non-hypothetical situations, if the non-hypothetical individual fails to meet the deadline for submission section 27570 applies:

Section 27570:
(a) It is the intent of the Legislature that a violation of
Section 27560 or 27565 shall not constitute a "continuing offense"
and the statute of limitations for commencing a prosecution for a
violation of Section 27560 or 27565 commences on the date that the
applicable grace period specified in Section 27560 or 27565 expires.
(b) Sections 27560 and 27565 shall not apply to a person who
reports ownership of a handgun after the applicable grace period
specified in Section 27560 or 27565 expires if evidence of that
violation arises only as the result of the person submitting the
report described in Section 27560 or 27565.

So, real people filing intra-familial transfers either file the paperwork with real dates and expect the same consideration shown in 27570, or file the paperwork with dates of receipt that are within the dates of deadline for filing.

Or pose another stupid, transparent hypothetical question.

You, a non-hypothetical individual gets to decide if your integrity is or is not hypothetical.

Cheers.

JR

(If you do not get it, I HATE hypothetical constructs)

But the hypothetical fig leaf still has me chuckling.

[p7m8jg]

GEt an HSC. Send in the intra-familial form and a check for $19.

Done.

[DFence]

You have to be 21 years old to acquire a handgun in California, so an 18 year old would not be able to at all.

As for the rest, I can't say.

Why attempt to give advice when you are mis-informed? Spreading this stuff es no bueno.

[Dvrjon]

Why attempt to give advice when you are mis-informed? Spreading this stuff es no bueno.

Often, one does not know what one does not know until one expresses what one knows.

Ya' know?

JR

"Once you stop learning, you start dying."