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  • NorCal MedTac
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 599

    Aclu?

    Does the ACLU support the second amendment or just all others? I have no idea so I was hoping for others opinions. That damn Colbert Report always gives me questions.
    http://www.norcalmedtac.com
    Providing CPR and First Aid training, to small groups and individuals; NRA classes; Defensive Medicine, Defensive Pistol, Defensive Carbine, and Defensive Shotgun classes.


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  • #2
    Mssr. Eleganté
    Blue Blaze Irregular
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 10401

    The ACLU says they support the Second Amendment...



    But they say that the Second Amendment doesn't protect the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
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    • #3
      taloft
      Well used Member
      CGN Contributor
      • Sep 2002
      • 2696

      Given the supporting historical opinions of the great men who wrote the Constitution, I find the ACLU opinion on the matter to be fallacious and two-faced.
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      "Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something."--Plato

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      • #4
        bu-bye
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 2835

        They are group that has turned on the people of this country and supported the scum of the earth. They will fight because they they want to keep their jobs not because its the right thing to do.

        I think every one of them should be dragged out to the street and shot. They are a joke and a waste of millions of dollars.
        Last edited by bu-bye; 04-19-2006, 10:01 PM.
        "Calling an illegal alien a "undocumented worker" is like calling the drug dealer hanging around outside your kid's school an "unlicensed pharmacist."

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        • #5
          phish
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 3089

          ACLU can KMFBA

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          • #6
            jdberger
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Oct 2005
            • 8944

            Though I'm a card carrying member <flame suit on> there are a number of things that they do that are absolutely stupid. And their stance on the Second Amendment is disingenuous.

            We believe that the constitutional right to bear arms is primarily a collective one, intended mainly to protect the right of the states to maintain militias to assure their own freedom and security against the central government. In today's world, that idea is somewhat anachronistic and in any case would require weapons much more powerful than handguns or hunting rifles.
            Then A)stand up for the rights of all Americans to own machine guns (repeal the NFA); B)Stand up for our rights to own AWs in this state...
            cause a bunch of Chechens and Iraqis armed with handguns and hunting rifles (7.62x39=30/30) are doing a damn decent job against tanks and helicopters.

            The national ACLU is neutral on the issue of gun control. We believe that the Constitution contains no barriers to reasonable regulations of gun ownership. If we can license and register cars, we can license and register guns.
            They didn't teach Amendment 2.5 where I went to lawschool.
            Transportation being necessary to a vibrant economy, the right to keep and drive a car shall not be infringed. <***hats>

            If indeed the Second Amendment provides an absolute, constitutional protection for the right to bear arms in order to preserve the power of the people to resist government tyranny, then it must allow individuals to possess bazookas, torpedoes, SCUD missiles and even nuclear warheads, for they, like handguns, rifles and M-16s, are arms. Moreover, it is hard to imagine any serious resistance to the military without such arms.
            Asinine logic and ungrounded in fact. See my first example.

            well...that's the end of my rant.......
            Rest in Peace - Andrew Breitbart. A true student of Alinsky.

            90% of winning is simply showing up.

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            • #7
              Muzz
              Member
              • Jan 2004
              • 202

              It really stands for:

              American Criminal Liberties Union

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              • #8
                EBWhite
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 2116

                Unless you are a criminal, liberal, or a minority---

                ACLU does not apply to you

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                • #9
                  C.G.
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 8174

                  Originally posted by Muzz
                  It really stands for:

                  American Criminal Liberties Union
                  Another example of a good organization gone awry.
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                  • #10
                    Omega13device
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 1943

                    They are not perfect, but they are out there protecting our civil rights. You may not always like who they are protecting, but if you're going to protect rights you can't pick and choose. They didn't win a lot of popularity points defending the rights of Nazis in the US, but someone has to do it.

                    That said, I think their stand on the 2nd Amendment is absurd and overly colored by politics. But I don't agree with every single thing the NRA says either.

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                    • #11
                      MrTuffPaws
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2156

                      Ah, all of the love for the ACLU.

                      I am glad they are around, and they will support anyone who asks. They even offered to help Rush when they tried to subpoena his medical records.

                      As for their support of the 2nd, it is non-existent, which is a real shame. They hold the same view point as the 39 ruling by the supreme court, which is nothing but hypocrisy to me, but they do well with the other amendments.

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                      • #12
                        superhondaz50
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 2988

                        as far as i'm concerned the ACLU is a terrorist organization!
                        Originally Posted By CTbuilder1 @ arfcom:
                        A lot of time and energy goes into thinking up ways to make perfectly good rifles into something dumb. Single shot ARs are gay. AR pistols are also gay. Just my opinion, of course, but a single shot AR pistol would be an AIDS cannon.

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                        • #13
                          DrjonesUSA
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 4680

                          Ah, the ACLU.

                          Founded and currently operated by communists.

                          Fighting to destroy everything about America.


                          The following sums them up quite nicely:












                          And here's a good article on them:

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                          • #14
                            MrTuffPaws
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 2156

                            Ah ha ha ha. Man, you would think the ACLU is made out of baby eating fascist commie lizard people from planet Pro-Gay by reading some of the comments on here.

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                            • #15
                              DrjonesUSA
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 4680

                              Originally posted by MrTuffPaws
                              Ah ha ha ha. Man, you would think the ACLU is made out of baby eating fascist commie lizard people from planet Pro-Gay by reading some of the comments on here.

                              If you think otherwise, you do not know anything about the ACLU.

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