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Will adding a sling to a 5.56 Pistol constitute conversion to a SBR?

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  • supernachos
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 1472

    Will adding a sling to a 5.56 Pistol constitute conversion to a SBR?

    Question: So I looked at RifleGear's website and they are selling a piston 5.56 pistol for $599.

    It's a great looking design by-passing the need for a buffer tube, so it looks nice and compact.

    If I somehow managed to add a sling to this pistol, will that constitute converting it to a SBR ?




    Thanks in Advance!
  • #2
    ASD1
    1/2 BANNED
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2012
    • 1793

    A sling by it self will not make it a SBR
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    • #3
      gr8dragon88
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 509



      SBR definition:

      Last edited by gr8dragon88; 06-01-2013, 11:34 AM.
      "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" - Lord Acton, Letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton (1887)

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      • #4
        Spaceghost
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2006
        • 5772

        Does a lanyard make a pistol a SBR?

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        • #5
          rp55
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2009
          • 1823

          No.
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          • #6
            Donk310
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 1798

            Originally posted by Spaceghost
            Does a lanyard make a pistol a SBR?
            No.
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            • #7
              sl0re10
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2013
              • 7242

              Originally posted by supernachos
              Question: So I looked at RifleGear's website and they are selling a piston 5.56 pistol for $599.

              It's a great looking design by-passing the need for a buffer tube, so it looks nice and compact.

              If I somehow managed to add a sling to this pistol, will that constitute converting it to a SBR ?




              Thanks in Advance!
              I'm sorry if this has been asked and answered but I was reading the wiki for pistols that are / are not assault weapons and the forward grip part did not say vertical (just having a forward grip) and if the magazine doesn't load in the main / pistol grip... that's another check mark... so that's two when you can't really have one.

              Or does that just mean you need a BB?

              But yeah, pretty good price for one with the piston.
              Last edited by sl0re10; 06-01-2013, 3:25 PM.

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              • #8
                desertjosh
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2011
                • 5749

                Wow thats a good price!
                Welcome to OT, where hypocrisy is King, outrage is Queen and the Kingdom is on the shores of the Denial River.

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                • #9
                  blkA4alb
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 3576

                  sl0re10,

                  12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon"
                  shall also mean any of the following:
                  (4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a
                  detachable magazine
                  and any one of the following:
                  (A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash
                  suppressor,forward handgrip, or silencer.
                  (B) A second handgrip.
                  (C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely
                  encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon
                  without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses
                  the barrel.
                  (D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some
                  location outside of the pistol grip.

                  (5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the
                  capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
                  Gotta have a fixed mag to have a magazine outside the grip of a pistol. Once the mag is fixed, you can have a threaded barrel, shroud, etc.
                  Please, calm down.

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                  • #10
                    sl0re10
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7242

                    ok, got it.

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                    • #11
                      supernachos
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 1472

                      Originally posted by desertjosh
                      Wow thats a good price!
                      I think it's partially due to the AR15 lower receiver being composed of a polymer material rather than the standard aluminum.

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                      • #12
                        supernachos
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1472

                        Originally posted by rp55
                        No.

                        Wow a beautiful single shot example ( wink ).

                        Dang -- that's pretty sexy piece!!!

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                        • #13
                          Bravodigger
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 620

                          No it won't.

                          But don't give them any more ideas
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                          Obama ended the gun control debate when he decided to arm the Syrian rebels with fully automatic machine guns and rocket launchers. He proved people need guns to protect themselves from tyranny. Did he give the rebels background checks before giving them real assault weapons?

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                          • #14
                            J20DB
                            Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 166

                            *Deleted* Apparently I've asked a bad question.
                            Last edited by J20DB; 10-02-2013, 12:47 PM.

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                            • #15
                              bwiese
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 27621

                              No, why would you think there would be? CA firearms law is so complex that the range of 'covered matter'
                              in case law matters and CA regulatory matters is far smaller than overall grounds of exposure.

                              I am not aware of any case law on this specific matter.

                              I do personally frown on buffer tubes on AR pistols that 'look too comfortable'. A shorty pistol buffer tube is
                              clearly legal. If you start using a longer tube, with padding, that one can kinda-sorta "cheek up to", then
                              you start getting into risk areas where a metro area antigun judge can start making law by interpreting statutes
                              that are already fairly broad.

                              And don't use a SlideFire stock even on an AR rifle.

                              Bill Wiese
                              San Jose, CA

                              CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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