Open Carry March on Washington Public being organized · July 4th 2013 9AM

[Kestryll]

What an incredibly stupid idea and if followed through with I'd guarantee that there will be arrests, bad press and damage to the public image of firearms owners and the only thing it would do to 2A legislation is give the yo-yos in D.C. ammunition and cover to get away with resurrecting the attempts at registration, AWB and other stuff.

"Look how dangerous these gun fanatics are!
They're willing to march on OUR government with guns to try to intimidate us!
Well I will NOT be intimidated, I'll do what's right despite the risks and ban those guns!!"

Yeah, this idea is really going to help us a lot...

[taperxz]

What an incredibly stupid idea and if followed through with I'd guarantee that there will be arrests, bad press and damage to the public image of firearms owners and the only thing it would do to 2A legislation is give the yo-yos in D.C. ammunition and cover to get away with resurrecting the attempts at registration, AWB and other stuff.

"Look how dangerous these gun fanatics are!
They're willing to march on OUR government with guns to try to intimidate us!
Well I will NOT be intimidated, I'll do what's right despite the risks and ban those guns!!"

Yeah, this idea is really going to help us a lot...

I think the whole thing is a puff piece to get one person some notoriety. If this were a real concern, the government would be all over this organizer and the media would also be up in arms.

Thus my statement "lets roll" <I should have used this

[Excelsior]

I think a demonstration like this by self-professed 2A supporters would do far more harm than good.

There are simply too many self-professed 2A supporters aching to bring attention to themselves personally. They want to show the world how tough they are. They want to show the world how fed-up and angry they are. It would be an embarrassing and possibly tragic disaster.

We would see this in how they dressed, what they carried and worst of all by what they said and how they comported themselves.

No thanks.

[CBruce]

This thread is going to get pulled as you are inciting folks to commit criminal acts.

I would also speculate that Very Bad Things will happen if this is actually attempted.

Criminal or civil disobedience in regards to an Unconstutional law? Do people have the right to keep *and* bear arms or not?

[lilro]

Or just an empty 30 round magazine... You could get more people to march.. enough to hit the 'too many to arrest' mark.

Or just a tracer round (since they're not worth as much and you can throw em away before going home).

That would end with DC cruisers filled with "free" magazines...If they can't arrest everyone, they will simply confiscate their "paraphernalia".

[jrr]

Criminal or civil disobedience in regards to an Unconstutional law? Do people have the right to keep *and* bear arms or not?

This is not how "civil disobedience" works. Lets be honest here, the idea is that a bunch of armed individuals (armed with LOADED firearms no less) gather en masse and march into DC in flagrant violation of several dozen laws. That is not civil disobedience, that is an act of intimidation intended to "show the government" how you "won't take this anymore". It is intended as a threat to the legislature. Ask the CA Black Panthers how that worked out for them.

If you want to get serious about helping the situation and raising awareness of gun rights, this is not the way to do it. If you want to act out a rebellious wet dream of taking up arms, then this is it. But don't be surprised if the mass media, the government, and the vast majority of people turn on you for it.

Firearms are not toys. They are not tools of intimidation. They are not props to be used to make a statement. They are tools for defense of self, property, and those around you. This is just wrong on so many levels.

If five thousand gun owners marched in DC and held a hunger strike until laws safeguarding Second Amendment rights were passed, that would be a respectable act of civil disobedience that would gain nationwide support and action.

If ten people show up at this march and follow through, it will have potentially dire consequences for all of our rights. If ten thousand showed up, it would only be worse.

[POLICESTATE]

Walking around DC, including around the White House, with loaded guns. Yeah that's going to be a hell of a thing to see. And it will not be looked upon the way you would think either.

March, but I would leave the guns at home. Cut your signs out in the shape of guns instead.

[jwkincal]

Criminal or civil disobedience in regards to an Unconstutional law? Do people have the right to keep *and* bear arms or not?

The people, in this case, will discover that the government has the right to interdict such activity at its ORP in the interest of public safety; this in spite of the need for the government to violate some other of those demonstrators' (look for more colorful terms to be applied here) otherwise constitutionally protected rights to accomplish same.

...and that said activity, upon being supported and tacitly authorized by the judiciary, will establish an onerous precedent which will poison future litigation efforts for not less than a generation.

...and that the media has the right to exploit the first amendment in a blatant and politically motivated distortion of fact in order to further weaken the known correct interpretation of the second amendment in a way that will require spectacular PR investment to counter.

...and that such manipulation on the part of the media will reverse the hard-won momentum that has thus far secured the near-certain victories in the Federal Legislature against the proposed nationwide firearms restrictions.

It is playing directly into the hands of the enemy.

[darrenlobo]

peaceful march, if they allow it to be that way

This thread is going to get pulled as you are inciting folks to commit criminal acts.

By definition civil disobedience is breaking the law, but criminal, no. The criminals will be the govt thugs moving against the marchers.

I'll be there so stay tuned for the video.

[JustEd]

What an incredibly stupid idea and if followed through with I'd guarantee that there will be arrests, bad press and damage to the public image of firearms owners and the only thing it would do to 2A legislation is give the yo-yos in D.C. ammunition and cover to get away with resurrecting the attempts at registration, AWB and other stuff.

"Look how dangerous these gun fanatics are!
They're willing to march on OUR government with guns to try to intimidate us!
Well I will NOT be intimidated, I'll do what's right despite the risks and ban those guns!!"

Yeah, this idea is really going to help us a lot...

I can only say THANK YOU for posting this and you picked up exactly what the response will be.

[JustEd]

Bear in mind that this coincides with National news stories about 3D printers being used to make working firearms.

I won't question the motivation, but the outcome of publicizing such things can not be good!

[a1c]

That's because the rest of the state gave up their rights to make sure the Panthers didn't have any either.

And you think this will be different how?

This sounds like a great idea to people who like to pat each other on the back and congratulate each other about how awesome and how right they are.

And it is an incredibly stupid idea from a PR perspective.

I can see the headlines right now: "Gun owners attempt to intimidate public and lawmakers by marching armed on the nation's capital"

Yeah, that's going to go over well... Haven't they learned anything?

[SilverTauron]

And you think this will be different how?

This sounds like a great idea to people who like to pat each other on the back and congratulate each other about how awesome and how right they are.

And it is an incredibly stupid idea from a PR perspective.

I can see the headlines right now: "Gun owners attempt to intimidate public and lawmakers by marching armed on the nation's capital"

Yeah, that's going to go over well... Haven't they learned anything?

Wrong.


"DC GOES INTO THREATCON CHARLIE IN RESPONSE TO TERRORIST MOB".


"Its clear to me as leader of the Free World that these militant agitators are a clear and present danger to the security of free Americans all over America, not just DC. We need to send a message that we won't be intimidated by firearms, and as such here is a list of my emergency executive orders meant to ensure Americans don't have to face the horrors we did today in our Nation's Capital"
-Obama's certain response to this idea.

Seriously, if you guys want to just torpedo our rights and set back the 2nd Amendment in the public image, do this protest. With friends like this, we may as well call Chuck Schumer now and help him draft the certain legislative response to such an act.

[bwiese]

I think the whole thing is a puff piece to get one person some notoriety.

Exactly.

[CessnaDriver]

Reading up on this guy I'm not impressed at his decision process.
If there ever is a need for an armed march, I'm certain this is not the guy to follow.