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  • rm1911
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 4073

    what if 90% of the people...

    -favored outlawing abortion, would difi and babs boxer support it?

    -favored regulating the press, would the ACLU and the media go along with it?

    -favored random police searches on anyone suspected of possible or potential wrongdoing, would that make it acceptable?

    -favored putting the burden of proof on the accused (as in other nations), would that make it acceptable?

    -favored racial profiling (let's be honest, crime stats are what they are) would that mean it's ok?

    -favored internment of people's thought to be a threat (oops, already happened!!) does that justify it?

    -favored an official state religion (or prohibiting one that doesn't agree with current, politically correct trends) make it legal or right?

    please feel to add to the list, but try this with the lefties and anti-gunners. yes, the 90% thing was utter BS, a fictitious number made up out of thin air by the most mendacious president in history (and that's saying something!!). even if true, it still doesn't matter.

    if 1%, .01%, hell even if I'm the only person in the entire country that wants to worship a tire iron as my supreme diety, freedom of religion still prevails. and THAT WAS THE POINT of the constitution, to protect the minority from the will of the majority. or more specifically, to protect the individual from the democratic will of the people.

    rights are not subject to popular will. popular will does not supersede rights. so, the next time one of those idiots rambles off about 90%, ask them if speech or religion, or privacy, is subject to a 90% referendum.
    NRA Life Member since 1990

    They're not liberals, they're leftists. Please don't use the former for the latter. Liberals are Locke, Jefferson, Burke, Hayek. Leftists are progressives, Prussian state-socialists, fascists. Liberals stand against the state and unequivocally support liberty. Leftists support state tyranny.

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    RonnieP
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 2750

    Abortions are women's right of choice to kill their babies.

    The Press is self regulating, we don't have a free press anymore the 4th estate is dead.

    Police already does "random" searches.

    George Zimmerman was accused and put through the mill and "evidence" against him fabricated by the MSM.

    Only whitey are capable of hate crimes.

    Well, yeah, you are free to think what you want as long as what you think is what we tell you.

    We don't need a religion of violences, we need a Religion of Peace.
    Trump 2016

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    • #3
      AlaskaGuy
      Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 221

      You don't hear many people on TV mention that it is irrelevant what 90% of the people want in a Constitutional Republic...
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      • #4
        Vin63
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 1218

        I don't really acknowledge that "90%" or "92%" statistic about "sensible gun control laws" or "extended background checks." That was a CBS poll that only surveyed 1100 people. That small of a sample doesn't come close to being on my statistically relevant radar screen.
        CH3NO2

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        • #5
          TempleKnight
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 918

          Originally posted by Vin63
          I don't really acknowledge that "90%" or "92%" statistic about "sensible gun control laws" or "extended background checks." That was a CBS poll that only surveyed 1100 people. That small of a sample doesn't come close to being on my statistically relevant radar screen.
          I agree. A recent poll ranked peoples most important issues and "gun control" ranked near the bottom. 4% of that group rated "gun control" as an important issue. That means that our side has 96% support. Agenda driven polls are useless.
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          • #6
            1859sharps
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 2261

            claiming that 90% of Americans are in agreement about anything is a text book case of how statistics and polls can be manipulated.

            If simply asked "do you support common sense gun laws" without more information, you probably do get a VERY high number of people saying yes. after all, who doesn't support common sense gun laws?

            If you lay in front of those exact same people you just asked "do you support common sense gun laws", the actual text of a proposed law as an example of "common sense law" you will find people changing their answer.

            while we "all" might support "common sense gun laws"...what each of us defines as as "common sense" can vary greatly.

            I personally think it is "common sense" that everyone has the right to carry a handgun at anytime for personal defense.

            DiFi would disagree and say it's "common sense" that no one should be able to carry a handgun.

            but we both "support" "common sense" gun laws. right?

            it's a twisting of words and truth and I think the American people just might be cluing in finally.

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            • #7
              bomb_on_bus
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2009
              • 5492

              I'm all for having the public media actually stating facts in their written articles versus biased opinions........... and I'm sure that at least 90% of the public would support it.


              In the last few days the main stream media has turned into a fervorous rage in response to the gun ban not passing the House vote. Articles are stating that 90% of the population wanted a gun ban, or the NRA lobbyiests bought the votes, the Right wingers bullied the Dems..................... sounds like a lot of Butthurt to me.

              Before that the main stream media spent countless hours writing misguided articles with erroneous data to try and sway public opinion towards more gun laws. I can't watch a show on T.V. without it being interrupted or followed up by something anti-gun. 10's of millions of dollars was spent on ads in newspapers, magazines, online blogs, T.V. commercials, etc. and the PEOPLE didn't buy it.
              Originally posted by aklon
              In 1775 we stood up.

              In 1776 we announced we would not be sitting back down.

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              Ahhhhhhhhhhh! Man that was some great Kool-Aid.......... hmmmmmm theres a hint of something metallic. Oh well guess I will get on with the voting.

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              • #8
                kalimus
                Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 342

                I'd like to find out if 90% of people are in favor of term limits...

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                • #9
                  giantsfan650
                  Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 154

                  The next person that says 90% of Americans support background checks needs to get smacked.

                  Anyone that believes results from a survey of 1500 citizens (of whom we do not know the % who own guns) somehow speaks for the whole populace and 60mil+ gun owners is absolutely crazy.

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                  • #10
                    rsacks
                    Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 307

                    90% of all Americans favor burning DiFi and Boxer at the stake. I know because I called 10 friends and 9 agreed.

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                    • #11
                      teetsjones
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 1374

                      so if obama gets a 90% disapproval rating he'll leave?

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                      • #12
                        RonnieP
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 2750

                        Originally posted by giantsfan650
                        The next person that says 90% of Americans support background checks needs to get smacked.

                        Anyone that believes results from a survey of 1500 citizens (of whom we do not know the % who own guns) somehow speaks for the whole populace and 60mil+ gun owners is absolutely crazy.
                        But 90% of the American People do support Stricter Gun Controls. Are you calling the President of the United States of America and Major News Outlets like MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS and PBS liars?

                        Why would they all lie? They have nothing to gain.
                        Trump 2016

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                        • #13
                          Blue Ridge Reef
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 901

                          Exactly what was the question, how was it posed, to get 90% of even 1,000 people to agree in expanded background checks? I bold that, b/c that word is conveniently omitted usually. You can't get 90% of people to agree the sun is larger than the earth.
                          Citizen.

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                          • #14
                            rexblaine
                            Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 300

                            Don't care what 90% want, they can go back to Russia.

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