Will this week's events turn the tide in our favor?

[BakoJ]

[Milsurp Collector]

With the events that are going down, would an act of domestic terrorism and the ensuing manhunt/lunacy/running gun battles actually change people's minds about gun ownership? Will people in progressive states decide that their legislators should reflect their beliefs as it pertains to self defense? And will progressive legislators, like typical politicians, whore themselves out and side with the people of the gun to stay in office?

No to all three questions.

[tradecraft]

I highly doubt it, but would love to be wrong.

[BakoJ]

I think we ought to use these events to our advantage, much like the libs do. In an era when we all must remain vigilant and resistive to homegrown terrorism, it is essential for all Americans to arm themselves. It is essential to defend one's home and family against terrorists and those that would tear our country apart. Think of the children! If just one innocent life was spared, then arming ourselves to defend against terror is worth it. (See what I did there? )

[Rumline]

I really think that trying to turn this into something pro-gun is a losing argument. The guy is not going door to door blowing people away...how would having a gun help people who are being locked in their homes by police?

[ap3572001]

By way of TTAG:

"Fox News’ anchor Chris Wallace called it: “I wonder how many of those people in Watertown with their doors locked would like a gun right now.” Well exactly. While Dan’s predicted a gun control blowback—as we discover how two immigrant terrorists got ahold of gunpowder and firearms (possibly including an “assault rifle”)—what’s the bet that this incident will increase gun sales in Massachusetts and further afield? I know: just what you need. MORE demand for ammunition. Think more strategically. The more Americans who tool-up, the safer our gun rights. In fact, the civilian disarmament industry may have sealed their fate with the push for federal gun control. And now this."

Boston is a notoriously liberal city. With the events that are going down, would an act of domestic terrorism and the ensuing manhunt/lunacy/running gun battles actually change people's minds about gun ownership? Will people in progressive states decide that their legislators should reflect their beliefs as it pertains to self defense? And will progressive legislators, like typical politicians, whore themselves out and side with the people of the gun to stay in office?

These are going to be some interesting times.

It may change things.

I think that people NEED to have effective firearms to feel safe in their homes, businesses and on the street. Most of the people I work with (LEO's) are of the same opinion.

I really hope that we can get away from gun control and instead begin to take some control of our surroundings.

Just my opinion. This is not even pro-gun , this is just common sense.

[BakoJ]

I really think that trying to turn this into something pro-gun is a losing argument. The guy is not going door to door blowing people away...how would having a gun help people who are being locked in their homes by police?

When armed thugs are running around carjacking people, who is to say that same thugs wouldn't kick in a door and invade a home to evade capture? I would say having a gun and being able to protect my home/family would ease my mind.

[Untamed1972]

I really think that trying to turn this into something pro-gun is a losing argument. The guy is not going door to door blowing people away...how would having a gun help people who are being locked in their homes by police?

Well it did start with a car-jacking didn't it? Would it be beyond the realm of reality for the guy to break into a house to hide and end up taking hostages or something?

I think the reality that should be pointed to is that even with ALL of the boots they have on the ground there right now they STILL CAN'T be everywhere at once. And if that guy does come to your door, wouldn't be nice to be able to resist with more than just strong words?

[Fate]

Earlier today Megyn Kelly at Fox News breathlessly wondered "Picture yourself as residents of Boston, sitting at home wondering what they would do if this second bomber burst through the door? How terrifying would that be?"

I kinda laughed. We have guns. It would be that guy's funeral.

[Fate]

Just my opinion. This is not even pro-gun , this is just common sense.

Careful, anytime someone says "common sense" anymore, my BS meter hits the peg and I stop seriously considering anything they've said.

[sammich]

NRA has already been blamed. A cop has been killed by an assault weapon.

It will be used by the anti-gun agenda pushers to further the hysteria against guns and gun owners. It is impossible to counter emotion and knee jerk reactions.

The "lockdown" will be used as an example that the police can protect you and "assault weapons" for protection are not needed. The cop's funeral will be made into a nationally televised event and as the murder took place in a state that already has strict gun control, it will be exploited to push national gun bans because of lax laws in neighboring states. Bloomberg will be all over this.

[13withinfinity]

NRA has already been blamed. A cop has been killed by an assault weapon.

It will be used by the anti-gun agenda pushers to further the hysteria against guns and gun owners. It is impossible to counter emotion and knee jerk reactions.

The "lockdown" will be used as an example that the police can protect you and "assault weapons" for protection are not needed. The cop's funeral will be made into a nationally televised event and as the murder took place in a state that already has strict gun control, it will be exploited to push national gun bans because of lax laws in neighboring states. Bloomberg will be all over this.

According to the video I heard the reports sounded more like handguns than anything. Even when they showed a bullet on the floor VERY briefly on the news, it was a 9mm or some round nose bullet. I don't know of any "assault rifles" that have round nose ammunition

[choprzrul]

Earlier, I was listening to an interview with a person who watched the 2 brothers shooting at police. The witness was looking out his window and could see them hiding behind a car while shooting.

Methinks, if it had been me witnessing this, my M14s would have had something to say about the outcome before they came busting through my front door.

But then, are MA residents able to own M14s' ?

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[Bsandoc40]

I would not use the events in Waterton, Cambridge and Boston as "talking points" for pro-2A. We, as supporters of 2A, must not sink to the level of those politicians (like Obama, Feinstein, etc). We don't need to "not waste of tragedy" for our agenda.

Now, if Obama and others attempt to use these events to their advantage. Then all bets are off.

"They only want the police to be armed with ARs. Citizens don't need guns to defend themselves." Yeah, locking our doors when there is a terrorist roaming free on the streets. Great way for self-defense. Personally, I rather have my 1911s and my brother with his AR ready to go to defense our families and property. Police won't be there to save us.

[Rumline]

Well it did start with a car-jacking didn't it? Would it be beyond the realm of reality for the guy to break into a house to hide and end up taking hostages or something?

I think the reality that should be pointed to is that even with ALL of the boots they have on the ground there right now they STILL CAN'T be everywhere at once. And if that guy does come to your door, wouldn't be nice to be able to resist with more than just strong words?

Of course. I'm just saying that trying to convince non-gunners that this kind of scenario is what justifies owning guns, it's not going to be received very well. Their focus is on catching the bad guy. If you make the discussion about guns, it's not going to win us any points.

OTOH if they make the discussion about guns, then we have to respond.