Senate Vote to Move Firearms Bill Forward CSPAN-2

[DEVOREGUNNER]

Well all of the phone calls, faxes and e-mails worked well didn't they!! Bastards.

[ngiotta]

....We can't win if we eat each other alive here...

This.

[Legasat]

How can Senator Richard Burr from NC be on both lists? Voted for and against the filibuster did he?

[Kopis]

They're back on C2.

[majtom94]

The awb and magazine ban are not going to pass so why all the concern. The house will not pass it if it has those provisions. Lets see what the senate sends to the house if anything before worrying. Background checks will only affect gun shows according to news reports.

Bhaaaa!!!!

[webster-dl]

I have a question: has anyone who got their gun rights suspended or got their guns confiscated for mental health reasons ever sued a medical practitioner for malpractice/slander for unlawfully disclosing their classified medical information improperly? Meaning someone who has no history of violence or violence-prone psychiatric conditions?

Meaning: someone with obsessive compulsive personality seeks mental health care and the cops confiscate their guns and suspend their gun rights. Has such a person ever brought a malpractice suit? If they won such a suit, I'll tell you all those medical people will think three times before inappropriately disclosing any information.

[Meplat]

"we have to pass it so we can find out what is in it" hope they learned their lesson from last time...

They did. It worked beautifully. Oh wait!! You meant our side.

[RonnieP]

68-31 in favor
R - McCain, Graham, Ayotte, Toomey, Coburn, Burr, Alexander, Heller, Wicker, Kirk, Corker, Isakson, Hoeven, Flake, Collins, were ayes

**** YOU and **** all the other traitors.

[RonnieP]

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/gun-advoc...-cnns-blitzer/

It's not just Toomey, All the ****ing rinos need to be Primary.

[Meplat]

I knew this was coming when folks on our side started screaming 'nut control, not gun control'.

This is pretty standard operating procedure these days. I should say since the 70's. They only vote on narrow interests or along party lines, the rest of the bill is unimportant to them.

What worries me is that there may be language that really will expand government oversight of WHO can own a firearm or live in a house with a firearm in it.

They have been considering language that gives the Feds the ability to determine who may own a firearm based on medical records.

Realize that this would give the Feds the ability to look at your medical records and they may confiscate your gun if you have been treated for even the mildest of mood disorders. In addition, if you have applied for disability insurance based on a mood disorder, say depression, then your rights may be abridged and they can confiscate your firearms WITHOUT due process.

As much as I disagree with the notion, there are hundreds of thousands of Americans on Federal Social Security Disability who are claiming disability based of mood disorders. Mood disorders are generally FAR from the psychosis that grips mass murderers. Removing their 2A rights is wrong. So this legislation is intended as a control mechanism over the people, NOT a solution to mass shootings or violence.

In Comiefornia, this is already occurring. As I'm sure you are aware police are coming to homes now, demanding to confiscate firearms from people who do not have a record of mental health issues, but have someone in their household who does.

We must resist these transparent attempts to simply remove firearms from people without due process! It is a slippery slope that will lead to complete confiscation.

This is completely unconstitutional, the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT be infringed.

[Tyrone]

Panic v. Calm Down

We need to remain vigilant and there is much reason for concern given the full court press we are seeing against the RTKBA. Panicking is never good but neither is letting your guard down because you assume it will be taken care of later. With that said, this was a procedural vote to allow debate. "Reports" are that some people voting to allow to debate will not vote for legislation and may join with others in filibustering so that it does not get to final vote. While this is not over by a long shot, we need to remain vigilant and continue to fight so that it is abundantly clear the other side is ultimately fighting a losing battle and it is they who should give up.

[AnthonyD1978]

McCain being a senator from Arizona confuses me.

[spruce3311]

How can Senator Richard Burr from NC be on both lists? Voted for and against the filibuster did he?

It's Russian roulette. Allow the amendments to be voted on. Put Dems in pro-gun regions in a bind. Hope the bill fails/filibuster.

High risk, high reward.

[Meplat]

OK, CSPAN is list the compromise points (Of course the devil is in the details).

Closes Gun Show loophole, exempts Friend and Neighbor transactions between private individuals.

Allows state concealed-carry permit in lieu of BG check.

Prohibits Gov from maintaining a "gun registry"

Specifies that medical privacy laws DON'T apply to mental health records in the background check DB.

Reduces BG check turnaround time. Blah blah.

[Tyrone]

"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." George Carlin