Where is the ACLU in all the 2A related attacks (civil liberties) ?

[DTOM CA!]

I am not naive when it comes to the ACLU but they are truly hypocrites if they don't stand up for these serious attacks on our civil liberties.

Web definitions
(civil liberty) one's freedom to exercise one's rights as guaranteed under the laws of the country.

They should be asked to help (they have clout and resources) or be called out and let all the media know there organization is does not protect "ALL" civil liberties. It would be an odd relationship but we can use all the help we can get.

[durandal]

They only care about the rights of fringe elements. Like hate groups. We are left twisting in the wind. They think 2A is a collective not individual right, whatever the Hell that means.

[a1c]

The national ACLU does not consider the 2A as a civil right in their statutes.

But you need to inform yourself better (and learn how to spell hypocrites). At the state and local level, many ACLU chapters have been filing lawsuits and amicus briefs in our favor for certain cases, ranging from hunting rights to open carry.

This is a recurring thread in here, and you'll find plenty on this very subject.

[Hot Holster]

My guess is they are all liberal, democrap, nobama voters and support the views of those they support, so they pick and choose what to fight against.

[ZombieTactics]

I am not naive when it comes to the ACLU but they are truly Hippocrates hypocrites if they don't stand up for these serious attacks on our civil liberties. ....

Fixed it for you. Hippocrates was an ancient Greek dude, considered to be the father of medicine. A hypocrite is someone who advocates something while doing the opposite.

Yes, spelling does actually matter.

[ZombieTactics]

The ACLU is the American Civil Liberties Union

Civil Liberties and Civil Rights are not the same thing as Natural Rights or Human Rights. There is some overlap, they just aren't the same thing.

The ACLU is - generally - a politically progressive organization. As such they do not generally acknowledge the concepts and philosophical underpinnings of "Natural Rights" or "Rights of the Individual", opting instead for group rights defined in terms of collective social constructs.

This is one of the reasons why the ACLU does not support the 2A as an individual RKBA. In their view, it should be construed only as a collective right of "the militia", and only of state-sanctioned militias.

This is something of an oversimplification, but it adequately explains the contradiction you note.

[Hoop]

As far as the ACLU goes they are historically very left-wing and as a result don't like guns. Some chapters of the ACLU are shifting a bit but by and large that is how it is.

[penguin0123]

Still waiting for the local chapters of ACLU to tell it to national. You'll find the local chapters very receptive to 2A. National will tell you to foxtrot omega.

[Cnynrat]

The national ACLU does not consider the 2A as a civil right in their statutes.

But you need to inform yourself better (and learn how to spell hypocrites). At the state and local level, many ACLU chapters have been filing lawsuits and amicus briefs in our favor for certain cases, ranging from hunting rights to open carry.

This is a recurring thread in here, and you'll find plenty on this very subject.

I wouldn't give the ACLU a pass on this issue simply because some local chapters may in rare instances act to protect the rights of gun owners. By and large, these actions are not aimed at protecting our fundamental 2A right, they are protecting other rights (e.g. 4A) in situations where guns happen to be involved. Please cite instances of the ACLU authoring an amicus brief that supports the fundamental and individual RKBA. I do not believe such an example exists.

Their position is quite clearly stated on their website: They do not agree with the Heller decision and hold on to the belief that the 2A does not protect an individual RKBA.

They deserve to be pilloried by all who hold the 2A dear.

[Davinho]

The ACLU is an organization. And like all organizations its top priority is its own survival, which means that its top priority is funding. The bulk of their funding comes from their members who don't like the 2A. It's that simple.