Why nobody is talking about this cause of mass shootings?

[Manolito]

Wherry J
I am interested in your statements and will continue my research. I was told there are rewards programs for Doctors. My medication was working very well then a Dr's appointment put me on a new medication that was not generic and cost me out of pocket another $250.00 per month. I was told the Dr. earns rewards such as vacations for non generic medications prescribed.

Our society today is based on drugs can make you feel better about yourself. I could go into a Dr's office and come out with any medication I wanted they truly want to prescribe.

I feel sorry for parents who's children are a little different for a few years and don't fit in the mold because everybody wants to medicate them and keep them quiet. Children were meant to run and scream and use their immaginations while playing and learning to deal with lifes problems. Today we shut them inside and promote games of video not human interaction.

The easier way in life is often the wrong path in life.

Just an old guys thoughts.

[kaligaran]

Writing as one who has over 39 years experience as a teacher, the VAST MAJORITY of teachers who recommend students for testing for ADD or ADHD are females who can not cope with young males. They expect every boy to be nice and compliant and stay quiet and seated. In my career I have worked with 13 school psychologists and 12 were women who readily wanted students tested. I saw this happen with my own son who was simply bored as hell in the classroom. I fought against him getting Ritalin, though he may have had it for a week. He hated it!

The common denominator in almost every mass shooting is the use of psychotropic drugs, often started when the young boys were in grade school.

Now that it's so common to just medicate kids, teachers see it as an easy out.

The fact is IMO not that they can't cope with unruly kids it's that they don't want to because it makes their job harder.

I had severe ADHD (still do, and I am a 33yo female) and my mom fought hard against me getting meds when I was in school back in the 80s and 90s. My teachers were very adamant. Luckily my mom refused. I was not the only kid the teachers were wanting to medicate (and about 2/3 of those were male).
About 75% of public school teachers are female and it's not been until the last two decades that this has become an serious issue with medications. It's not that dealing with unruly kids is new, it's that medicating them to solve the problem is.

It's much easier for teachers to get kids medicated than to take steps to engage them or get their parents to cut back on sugar and regulate their diet since external causes that may make conditions worse. Many kids on ADHD meds aren't even ADHD, it's their diet for others it's just that they are bored.

[kaligaran]

I should also mention that I was 'diagnosed' with ADHD by many school psychiatrists when I was in school.

However, in my early 20s I wanted a real diagnosis and had to take a 4 hour 1-on-1 test with a psychiatrist which came to the conclusion that I had severe adult ADHD. The testing I got when I sought it out was so though and nothing like what I had when I was diagnosed in school.

[Waffleobill]

Sure most of you on CGN have seen it before, but for those that haven't (conspiracy over Noveske's death aside, this raises good questions regarding the legal doping of our youth and society as a whole).

http://texasgopvote.com/comment/33561

[sunaj]

False Flag operations

sunaj

[SuperSet]

If health records aren't public, how do these reports link Holmes, Loughner, and Lanza to certain drugs?

[GoOrdnance]

The drug offered to my son for ADHA is Adderall, the same drug college students take to get them throught finals. Look up the drug drug on line and see what it does to a person who doesn't need them. Then look up the chemicals that make the drug. One web sight I found listed most of the chemicals, but then there were some un listed ones they called salts. Salts? Not too long ago the FBI cracked down on imported salts (bath) that were imported that caused people to do some really wierd things, like chew the face of another person. Now, combine the adderall which makes one more attentive and alert, playing a video game for several days against a person in an on-line battle game room against a an unknown person what do you get? think about it.
One more thing, some law firms have identified Aderall as being a bad drug. It is a recreational drug when improperly used. Im not saying this drug is the fault of the gun crimes, but there have been parents talking about this in the news to bring it to the publics attention. They lost a child who used these types of drugs. Look at the eyes of the shooters at the time of arrest, something is wrong here. Some of them were seeing mental health counselors.
Why is it that we are so tolerant of music that promotes serious criminal activity (over fifteen years), and violent games that is all about killing and not do anything about. But, no one relates any of this to the crimes we are seeing. Now, its mass punishment of those who have had to tolerate all of this and loose our privileges because of it.
I'm done.

[GoOrdnance]

Just as I finished my last post a Constitutional Sheriff was murdered: Follow the events.

It is a tragic and very sad day for all Americans, that we have learned of the assassination of Sheriff Eugene Crum of Mingo County, West Virginia. Sheriff Crum was very dedicated to his community and he will be sorely missed. The CSPOA and all its members and staff extend our most heartfelt condolences to Sheriff Crum's family and the Mingo County Sheriff's Office. Sheriff Crum was shot shortly after noon today near the courthouse in Mingo County. A suspect is in custody.

Pay attention.

[ranger550]

Writing as one who has over 39 years experience as a teacher, the VAST MAJORITY of teachers who recommend students for testing for ADD or ADHD are females who can not cope with young males. They expect every boy to be nice and compliant and stay quiet and seated. In my career I have worked with 13 school psychologists and 12 were women who readily wanted students tested. I saw this happen with my own son who was simply bored as hell in the classroom. I fought against him getting Ritalin, though he may have had it for a week. He hated it!

The common denominator in almost every mass shooting is the use of psychotropic drugs, often started when the young boys were in grade school.

Bullying by classmates seems to be an issue as well, from what I have read.

[jeremiah12]

[QUOTE=kaligaran;10990557]Now that it's so common to just medicate kids, teachers see it as an easy out.

The fact is IMO not that they can't cope with unruly kids it's that they don't want to because it makes their job harder.

As a high school teacher, at least in my district, we are not allowed to suggest any child has any particular learning disability or to suggest any course of treatment. All we can recommend is the child be tested for an issue that might be interfering with their educational success. Teachers are not qualified and do not hold the proper credentials to make those evaluations. Education code and court rulings have made that clear and the administration reminds us of this often. Parents are quick to lawyer up and if a teacher makes a diagnosis the district can become liable to pay for the treatment under the Federal special education laws.

As a teacher, I am very limited in what I can actually do to unruly kids. The truth is, unless I have 100% cooperation by the parents, there is very little I can do. Students are great at convincing their parents the teacher is out to get them. I wish it was legal to videotape in the classroom so I could show parents exactly how their child behaves at school. Reality is, those kids who have parents that parent and do not act like their kid's friend generally do well. If a problem comes up, I can call home. I can also call home when the kid does something outstanding so they get positive reinforcement.

The kids of parents who fight the teachers and the schools, sometimes we cannot even suspend them because they lawyer up and get a court order.

There are some kids who are truly ADHD and meds really help them. In my experience though I see way too many that are quickly labelled ADHD just because they are going through normal teenage stuff or because they are lost in school with all the political BS focus of forcing all kids into all advanced academic classes even if they are not prepared for it. Math is the worst. In our district, kids have to fail algebra 2 years in a row before they get to take the basic algebra class that meets the minimum requirement for graduation. No wonder student frustration is at an all time high. I gave up my math credential because I still have some freedom to creatively engage students in science. This year the potato gun is out though. Damn PC crap.

In ending this long post, I do enjoy every one of my unmedicated "ADHD" students because they are the ones that often show the most creativity in solving the problems I give for science projects. Once you can grab their interest and channel their energy, they are nearly unstoppable.

[tankarian]

Here is just an example of how Big Pharma is pushing their drugs:

“Antipsychotics are overused, overpriced and oversold,” said Allen Frances, former chair of psychiatry at Duke University School of Medicine, who headed the task force that wrote the DSM-IV, psychiatry’s diagnostic bible. While judicious off-label use may be appropriate for those who have not responded to other treatments for, say, severe obsessive-compulsive disorder, Frances said the drugs, which are designed to calm patients and to moderate the hallucinations and delusions of psychosis, are being used “promiscuously, recklessly,” often to control behavior and with little regard for their serious side effects. These include major, rapid weight gain — 40 pounds is not uncommon — Type 2 diabetes, breast development in boys, irreversible facial tics and, among the elderly, an increased risk of death.

Doctors are allowed to prescribe drugs for unapproved uses, but companies are forbidden to promote them for such purposes. In the past few years major drugmakers have paid more than $2 billion to settle lawsuits brought by states and the federal government alleging illegal marketing; some cases are still being litigated, as are thousands of claims by patients. In 2009 Eli Lilly and Co. paid the federal government a record $1.4 billion to settle charges that it illegally marketed Zyprexa through, among other things, a “5 at 5 campaign” that urged nursing homes to administer 5 milligrams of the drug at 5 p.m. to induce sleep.

Wayne Blackmon, a psychiatrist and lawyer who teaches at George Washington University Law School, said he commonly sees patients taking more than one antipsychotic, which raises the risk of side effects. Blackmon regards them as the “drugs du jour,” too often prescribed for “problems of living. Somehow doctors have gotten it into their heads that this is an acceptable use.” Physicians, he said, have a financial incentive to prescribe drugs, widely regarded as a much quicker fix than a time-intensive evaluation and nondrug treatments such as behavior therapy, which might not be covered by insurance.

In a series in the New York Review of Books last year, Marcia Angell, former editor in chief of the New England Journal of Medicine, argued that the apparent “raging epidemic of mental illness” partly reflects diagnosis creep: the expansion of the elastic boundaries that define mental illnesses to include more people, which enlarges the market for psychiatric drugs.

“You can’t push a drug if people don’t think they have a disease,” said Fugh-Berman, who directs PharmedOut, a Georgetown program that educates doctors about drug marketing and promotion. “How do you normalize the use of antipsychotics? By using key opinion leaders to emphasize their use and through CMEs (continuing medical education) and ghost-written articles in medical journals,” which, she said “affect the whole information stream.”
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Drugs at 18 months

Nursing home residents aren’t the only ones gobbling antipsychotics.

Mark E. Helm, a Little Rock pediatrician who was a medical director of Arkansas’s Medicaid evidence-based prescription drug program from 2004 to 2010, said he had seen 18-month-olds being given potent antipsychotic drugs for bipolar disorder, an illness he said rarely develops before adolescence. Antipsychotics, which he characterized as the fastest-growing and most expensive class of drugs covered by the state’s Medicaid program, were typically prescribed to children to control disruptive behavior, which often stemmed from their impoverished, chaotic or dysfunctional families, Helm said. “Sedation is the key reason these meds get used,” he observed.

More than any other factor, experts agree, the explosive growth in the diagnosis of pediatric bipolar disorder has fueled antipsychotic use among children. Between 1994 and 2003, reported diagnoses increased 40-fold, from about 20,000 to approximately 800,000, according to Columbia University researchers.
More here

[tankarian]

Here's an FDA link with some pretty clear info:

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/D.../ucm088660.pdf

This info also implies that the main issue is the mental affliction, and the meds only influence the primary issue:

What is the most important information I should know about antidepressant medicines, depression and other serious mental illnesses, and suicidal thoughts or actions?
1.
Antidepressant medicines may increase suicidal thoughts or actions in some children, teenagers, and young adults within the first few months of treatment.new or worse anxiety violent

[tankarian]

Until the 80's mass shootings happened maybe 2-3 times every decade. Since 1982, there have been at least 62 mass shootings across the country. Twenty-five of these mass shootings have occurred since 2006, and seven of them took place in 2012.

Here is a compiled list number of mass shootings by decade since the year 1900:

Mass Public Shootings per Decade

1900s : 0

1910s: 2

1920s: 2

1930s: 9

1940s: 8

1950s: 1

1960s: 6

1970s: 13

1980s: 32

1990s: 42

2000s: 28

2010s (three years): 14

Only 41 mass shootings happened in 80 years, from 1900 until 1980. This is an average of two shootings every decade.

From 1980 until 2013 in only 33 years the number skyrocketed to 106. That's over 30 mass shootings every decade.

The fad of ADD / ADHD medication being mass prescribed to millions of kids that don't need it started in the 80's. This is exactly the same decade when mass shootings perpetrated by kids (who are all under this kind of medication) increased 20-fold.
This is not a coincidence. The numbers don't lie.

[huntercf]

Actually the main cause of these mass shootings is the democratic party, all mass shooters were members of the DNC (or their parents were). The left wingers don't want to admit (along with the lamestream media) that they are the cause of these psychopaths.

[nicki]

Bullying is a factor.

Bullying by classmates seems to be an issue as well, from what I have read.

Bullying has always been a problem, but the level and depth of bullying has gotten out of control.

How many things do our children have to put up with that as adults, we could file criminal complaints and/or take defensive action against our attackers.

Many of us say that if we face a violent confrontation, the best thing to do is walk away. Unfortunately for our children, they don't have that option because they have to go back to school the next day.

Some kids will snap and when they do, results can be disastrous.

There is a classic war movie, Full Metal Jacket where one recruit in bootcamp, private Pyle just snaps after being constantly ragged on by the drill Sargent.

At the end of boot camp, Pvt Pyle has lost his mind and he kills the DI and then commits suicide.

Pvt Pyle's downward spiral into insanity is similar to what many children in almost every school face. The issue is not if we will have more shootings, but when.

If we don't step up and take the lead on this issue, then other so called solutions so as "gun bans" will be rammed down our throats.

Nicki