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  • tombinghamthegreat
    Veteran Member
    • May 2007
    • 2785

    Originally posted by Sinixstar
    My understanding is - if you can easily reach it from where you're sitting, it's a no no, locked or not.
    FUD. You can have a handgun with ammo/loaded mags in a backpack between your legs with a cheap lock since it would not violate PC12025 since it is a locked container. It is not illegal for a unloaded handgun with the loaded mags right next to the gun to be in plain sight to be sitting right next to you since it would be complaince with people vs clark and PC12031. For long guns no requirements for locking since long guns are considered non concealable. The exception to this is the k-12 schhol gun free zone which all guns has to be in a locked container, or for long guns a locking gun rack.
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    Originally posted by forumguy
    The same way they enforce all the rest of the BS laws. Only criminals are exempt, while the honest obey.
    Originally posted by bwiese
    Sometimes I think the function of Calguns is half to refute bad info from gunshops and half to refute bad info from DOJ.

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    • Liberty1
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2007
      • 5541

      Holy necrothread! That brings back some memories! Boy was I cantankerous back in my youth

      Originally posted by Sinixstar
      Last time I read about this - it was *fairly* simple.


      My understanding is - if you can easily reach it from where you're sitting, it's a no no, locked or not.
      No fair you need to read the whole thread before spouting FUD
      Last edited by Liberty1; 01-10-2010, 7:51 AM.
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      • glockwise2000
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2520

        I would not mount the vault on your car/excursion. You are creating a compartment that is now a part of the car. It doesn't mention in the law how far you can have a locked HG in your car, so having a locked HG in your lap would be okay, I think.
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        • Meplat
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 6903

          Originally posted by G17GUY
          Might as well just open carry
          GFSZ drama.
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          • Kid Stanislaus
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4419

            Originally posted by Glock22Fan
            And we all know that what the Sheriff says just absolutely has to be the law, the complete law and nothing but the law.
            Hey man they're the ONLY ONES who know what the law is, the ONLY ONES PROFESSIONAL ENOUGH!
            Last edited by Kid Stanislaus; 01-10-2010, 4:39 PM. Reason: Elucidation
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            • bigcalidave
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2009
              • 4489

              Originally posted by glockwise2000
              I would not mount the vault on your car/excursion. You are creating a compartment that is now a part of the car. It doesn't mention in the law how far you can have a locked HG in your car, so having a locked HG in your lap would be okay, I think.
              Did you read this two year old thread? Where does it say that again?


              Geez, this one is old AND had a great troll... Whatever happened to "new"
              ...

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              • Kid Stanislaus
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 4419

                Originally posted by eta34
                You are all wrong. All guns are illegal to transport. BB guns, rubber band guns, water pistols. You all will go to jail.
                FINALLY! After wading through 8 pages of pure gibberish we get a clear cut, definitive answer!!
                Things usually turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out.

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                • packnrat
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 3939

                  Originally posted by Boxer
                  There is a magazine container that hooks to the (non hinged) edge of this vault. The lid of that container locks under the lid of the Titan vault and springs open when the Titan vault is opened.

                  Can a loaded magazine be kept in that locked acessories container that is locked via the Titian vault. The additional container is a protoype and is a special order right now. Does this complicate things?

                  Both items are in open view behind the seat in the center.
                  the loaded mags can be in the same locked case as the gun. no other is needed.

                  just no ammo IN the gun.
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                  • johnny_22
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2180

                    Old magazine article for an old thread...

                    The December 2009 issue of Shooting Illustrated has a Locked-Unloaded Concealed Carry Article written by someone from Southern California. It has some very good suggestions on stealth carry for the office.
                    Last edited by johnny_22; 01-11-2010, 7:54 AM. Reason: spelling
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                    • paul0660
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 15669

                      You are creating a compartment that is now a part of the car.
                      CalCCW fud.
                      *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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                      • Decoligny
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                        • Mar 2008
                        • 10615

                        ZOMBIE THREAD - - - -WANT TO EAT YOUR BRAINS.

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                        • Phillips
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 22

                          as if there wasnt enough questions regarding this thread. i have one more twist to add. i have the titan gun vault with the magazine compartment. i want to install it under the front bench seat. i want only the front portion of the vault to be accesable. in order to do this i will have to modify the frame of the seat. will this affect any legal issues?

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                          • Rossi357
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 1229

                            Originally posted by glockwise2000
                            I would not mount the vault on your car/excursion. You are creating a compartment that is now a part of the car. It doesn't mention in the law how far you can have a locked HG in your car, so having a locked HG in your lap would be okay, I think.
                            I duct tape mine on top my head.

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                            • bluerider
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 56

                              If I were to own a hand gun prior to when it was required that they be registered it would still be legal for me to own that gun without registering it. Now for the question part: Would that gun be considered an unregisterd gun and I would only be allowed to transport it directly to the range and back? Not to be confused with the Guns I have purchased since they have been required to be registersd which I can have at any time or any where in my vehichle as long as they are in a locked container.

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                              • CalNRA
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 8686

                                Originally posted by New
                                Out of arms reach. Thats what the sheriff here says
                                there is a thread in off topic where a guy got a traffic ticket and the patrolwoman couldn't even tell him for which VC section he was being cited.
                                Originally posted by cvigue
                                This is not rocket surgery.

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