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  • Markinsac
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1000

    2013 CA SB 755 - Wolk - Firearms: used firearms

    Adds more misdemeanors to the 10-year prohibition on firearm or ammunition possession.



    SB 755, as introduced, Wolk. Firearms: prohibited persons.


    (1) Existing law, subject to exceptions, provides that any person who has been convicted of certain misdemeanors may not, within 10 years of the conviction, own, purchase, receive, possess, or have under his or her custody or control, any firearm. Violation of this prohibition is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison, by a fine not exceeding $1,000, or by both that imprisonment and fine.

    This bill would add to the list of misdemeanors, the conviction for which is subject to those prohibitions, misdemeanor offenses of threatening a peace officer, removing a weapon from the person of a peace officer, hazing, transferring a firearm without completing the transaction through a licensed firearms dealer, furnishing ammunition to a minor, possession of ammunition by a person prohibited from having a firearm, furnishing ammunition to a person prohibited from possessing ammunition, carrying ammunition onto school grounds, carrying a loaded or concealed weapon if the person has been previously convicted of a crime against a person or property, or of a narcotics or dangerous drug violation, or if the firearm is not registered, participation in any criminal street gang, a public offense committed for the benefit of a criminal street gang, disobedience to the terms of an injunction that restrains the activities of a criminal street gang. By changing the definition of a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.

    (2) Under existing law it is a felony for any person who has been previously convicted of any specified violent offenses to own or have possession or custody or control of any firearm.

    This bill would additionally make it a felony for any person to own or possess a firearm if the person has been convicted of 2 or more crimes within a 3-year period and was found to have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol during the commission of the crimes, if the person has been convicted of possessing any controlled substance for sale, or if the person has violated any protective order that was issue due to a threat of violence. By expanding the definition of a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.

    (3) Existing law prohibits certain specified individuals, including a person who has been adjudicated a danger to others as a result of a mental disorder or mental illness, a person who has been adjudicated a mentally disordered sex offender, a person who has been found not guilty by reason of insanity, or a person who has been placed under conservatorship by a court, among others, from possessing firearms or deadly weapons.

    Existing law authorizes a court to order a person to obtain assisted outpatient treatment if certain criteria are met, including that the person is suffering from a mental illness and is unlikely to survive safely in the community without supervision.

    This bill would prohibit a person who has been ordered by a court to obtain assisted outpatient treatment from purchasing or possessing any firearm or other deadly weapon while subject to assisted outpatient treatment. The bill would require the court to notify the Department of Justice of the order prohibiting the person from possessing a firearm or other deadly weapon within 2 days of the order, and to notify the Department of Justice when the person is no longer subject to assisted outpatient treatment. Because a violation of this provision would be a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.

    (4) Existing constitutional provisions require that a statute that limits the right of access to meetings of public bodies or the writings of public officials and agencies be adopted with findings demonstrating the interest protected by that limitation and the need for protecting that interest.

    This bill would make a legislative finding and declaration relating to the necessity of treating reports to the Department of Justice as confidential in order to protect the privacy of individuals ordered to obtain assisted outpatient treatment.

    (5) The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement.

    This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this act for a specified reason.
  • #2
    kf6tac
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1779

    Haze a potential frat brother, lose your right to self-defense for 10 years. Yeah, that's totally fair. /sarcasm


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    • #3
      Khyber
      Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 253

      This bill would additionally make it a felony for any person to own or possess a firearm if the person has been convicted of 2 or more crimes within a 3-year period and was found to have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol during the commission of the crimes, if the person has been convicted of possessing any controlled substance for sale, or if the person has violated any protective order that was issue due to a threat of violence. By expanding the definition of a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.
      So if you commit/committed two or more crimes in a three year period and were not intoxicated are your 2nd amendment rights still taken away? Or is it if you committed two crimes within a three year period they take your rights away?

      (example) Lets say if someone got misdemeanor reckless driving + street racing while sober they would essentially loose there 2nd amendement rights? Or is if you were intoxicated at the time of the crime? Then lets also say the reckless driving + street racing charge is dismissed @ a later date; would this law still apply to that person?

      I'm just confused about the wording. If its two crimes and your gun rights are stripped then it opens the flood gates for a few people.
      Last edited by Khyber; 03-03-2013, 9:56 PM.

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      • #4
        StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 2994

        What no prohibition for Traffic violations. Maybe next year.
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        • #5
          dieselpower
          Banned
          • Jan 2009
          • 11471

          they will continue the attack on the 2ndA until we are all slaves...they are nearly there.

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          • #6
            freonr22
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2008
            • 12945

            This bill would additionally make it a felony for any person to own or possess a firearm if the person has been convicted of 2 or more crimes within a 3-year period and was found to have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol during the commission of the crimes,


            That would make 2 dui's? In 3 years? Or is this in context to #2?
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            • #7
              Khyber
              Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 253

              Originally posted by freonr22
              This bill would additionally make it a felony for any person to own or possess a firearm if the person has been convicted of 2 or more crimes within a 3-year period and was found to have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol during the commission of the crimes,


              That would make 2 dui's? In 3 years? Or is this in context to #2?
              Is it just DUI's or all crimes?

              Also what if those crimes are dismissed at a later date through expungement in California. Are your gun rights still stripped?

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              • #8
                komifornian
                Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 246

                Two or more crimes and you were drinking or taking something. It’s NOT limited to DUI's – just two or more crimes and under the influence. Doesn't matter what the crimes were.
                In my case it was 25 years ago in college. Drinking beer at a party then went ice blocking. Two years an 11 months later drinking beer at party and a bunch of us decided to tp a sorority house - crime number two. Both a long time ago and we're benign. For this I will lose my right to own a firearm if this passes! INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                • #9
                  desertjosh
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2011
                  • 5749

                  This thread deserves a bump. This is a bad bill and is being overlooked IMO.
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                  • #10
                    duesenberg1
                    Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 166

                    If you were to carry ammo onto school grounds you would lose gun rights for 10 years.
                    Originally Posted by OlderThanDirt.
                    And if I get arrested, I can piss in someone's squad car, putting it out of commission and saving a dog's life.

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                    • #11
                      desertjosh
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2011
                      • 5749

                      Yep, or if you got a couple misdemeanors when you were younger that were alcohol or drug related you lose them for life is what i read.
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                      • #12
                        Dark Paladin
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                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1531

                        This might be semantics. . . but. . .

                        Originally posted by SB755
                        carrying a loaded or concealed weapon if the person has been previously convicted of a crime against a person or property, or of a narcotics or dangerous drug violation, or if the firearm is not registered
                        That was so wordy it is ridiculous, but that ridiculousness is also hiding something very sinister. . .

                        Originally posted by SB755
                        carrying a loaded or concealed weapon if the person has been previously convicted of a crime against a person or property, or of a narcotics or dangerous drug violation, or if the firearm is not registered
                        So. . . carrying your loaded rifle that was acquired before the mandatory registration starts in 2014 = 10 year prohibitive misdemeanor under this bill.

                        This bill needs to be killed post haste.

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                        • #13
                          desertjosh
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                          • May 2011
                          • 5749

                          Also, I assume this bill is retroactive?
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                          • #14
                            VAReact
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1519

                            I don't understand why this bill is not getting the same amount of attention as most of the others -seems pretty serious to me.
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                            • #15
                              ShooterDK
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 11939

                              Hazing? You got to be kidding.
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