A Semi Auto military style rifle is perfect for Home defense in Big Bear Ca tonight

[Ronin2]

Now believed top be in the Big Bear area, at the same time a LEO family ski day is happening at the Big Bear Ski resort was going on.....I think and AR style weapon is just what I would want to defend my family if I lived in the Big bear area.




Christopher Dorner Manhunt: Cops in Tactical Gear, on Edge Across Southern California - ABC News

[mcm95403]

Yep!

[glock7]

whether he's there or not....it's still the perfect hd weapon. ymmv

[spalterego]

If I owned a Nissan Titan pickup truck I would certainly want one to defend myself . . . ..............


From . . . ............

the . . . ........


cops

[whlgun]

Its a great rifle to defend me wherever I am.

[VW*Mike]

Regardless of locales, its a great tool for defense.

I would guarantee this loon is FAR from that truck and would guess, if his truck is there, he had another vehicle waiting and is probably long gone.

[Ronin2]

Regardless of locales, its a great tool for defense.

I would guarantee this loon is FAR from that truck and would guess, if his truck is there, he had another vehicle waiting and is probably long gone.

YUP... without a doubt. Probably had a delayed fuse incendiary devise as well. The guy is crazy and a killer BUT that does not necessarily make his claims any less valid if they are.

I personally did not know that LAPD officers suspended without pay for disciplinary actions would have their lost salary made up by the LAPD police Protective League!!!!

So lets see... secret disciplinary hearings and no financial consequences for violation of policy or abuse of citizens??? Hmmmmm

[Hiknefer]

So lets see... secret disciplinary hearings and no financial consequences for violation of policy or abuse of citizens??? Hmmmmm

There is another perspective on the issue of financial reimbursement while off-duty without pay. The police officers pay for this insurance as part of their union dues. The money doesn't magically appear from nowhere. Consider this: Let's say you are a police officer and you do everything correctly but are falsely accused of some wrong-doing by a disgruntled citizen you ticketed, arrested, etc. Your "superiors," some of whom will burn you in a heartbeat to avoid any liability or political tarnish for themselves, assign you time off without pay. Wouldn't it be smart to pay for insurance to protect yourself and your family under these circumstances?

By the way, you will never ever in a million years under any circumstances hear me make excuses for or support corrupt police/government/etc. activity. Period. Not now, not ever. Especially their unions. In fact, I'm actually pointing out the disgraceful actions of some administrators.

[Ronin2]

There is another perspective on the issue of financial reimbursement while off-duty without pay. The police officers pay for this insurance as part of their union dues. The money doesn't magically appear from nowhere. Consider this: Let's say you are a police officer and you do everything correctly but are falsely accused of some wrong-doing by a disgruntled citizen you ticketed, arrested, etc. Your "superiors," some of whom will burn you in a heartbeat to avoid any liability or political tarnish for themselves, assign you time off without pay. Wouldn't it be smart to pay for insurance to protect yourself and your family under these circumstances?

By the way, you will never ever in a million years under any circumstances hear me make excuses for or support corrupt police/government/etc. activity. Period. Not now, not ever. Especially their unions. In fact, I'm actually pointing out the disgraceful actions of some administrators.

So what you are saying is that there may very well be validity to some or all of Christopher Doners allegations? So much so that the LAPD PPL actually insures tis members against this kind of injustice and abuse?

[TRICKSTER]

YUP... without a doubt. Probably had a delayed fuse incendiary devise as well. The guy is crazy and a killer BUT that does not necessarily make his claims any less valid if they are.

I personally did not know that LAPD officers suspended without pay for disciplinary actions would have their lost salary made up by the LAPD police Protective League!!!!

So lets see... secret disciplinary hearings and no financial consequences for violation of policy or abuse of citizens??? Hmmmmm

So lets see.... guilty until proven innocent???? Hmmmmmm

[Ronin2]

So lets see.... guilty until proven innocent???? Hmmmmmm

Please highlight my specific words that provide the justification for your ASSumption...SIR! All I have done is inquire as to the nature of the system, a system that as I learn more about its lack of transparency and insulation of
officers who are supposed to be impacted by it, the more suspect the system is in its ability to provide a check/balance.

[RandyD]

So lets see... secret disciplinary hearings and no financial consequences for violation of policy or abuse of citizens??? Hmmmmm

The first level of disciplinary hearings are confidential. Even most non-government employment related disciplinary actions are kept confidential. In Dorner's case, his discipline became public because he appealed, and if you are interested in reading the appellate decision regarding his termination use this site http://boywithgrenade.org/2013/02/07...ers-manifesto/

[romr]

Everyone read that manifesto, yes we all know those are his claims, but if what he is claiming is true, that is pretty messed up. I know it's long but you should read every word. In WROL, I want to be as far away from a cop uniform as I can get! Of course he now also claims that we should not own the same weapons he's using so now I see he is crazy as well...

[RandyD]

Everyone read that manifesto, yes we all know those are his claims, but if what he is claiming is true, that is pretty messed up.

After him killing three people that had nothing to do with his circumstances, I could care less if he was unjustly terminated. Even if everything he said was true, that does not justify murder.

[BrokerB]

he is a lowlife sum bag and all his words are lies . He killed a women and man who never threatned him or anyone else with death or gbi .

that proves that land was correct in dumping that pos garbage nut bag .