Simple Question, yet never a simple answer... Preban magazines in new gun?

[Caligvla]

Hi,

I am in California, and I have some old 30rd preban magazines.

I have a new FN FS2000, that I have installed a BB on, as well as a muzzle break to get me to an overall length of 31"

Can I use my old 30rd magazines in this gun, or am I limited to 10rd mags?

thanks for your help.

C

[Noggles]

No.

[SgtMerc]

Check stickies. BB is "fixed" so no 10+. Featureless or rim fire only for 30s

[Caligvla]

Check stickies. BB is "fixed" so no 10+. Featureless or rim fire only for 30s

even if I owned the 30s pre-ban?

[FullMetalJacket]

Even if you owned them before.

Bullet button = 10 rounds max. Period.

[RuskieShooter]

even if I owned the 30s pre-ban?

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but by putting a bullet button on the rifle you have made the magazine non-removable.

One of the definitions of an "assault rifle" in CA is a rifle with a non-removable magazine capable of holding more than ten rounds.

Therefore, bullet-button + greater than 10 round magazine = assault rifle regardless of the status of the magazines.

-Ruskie

[FullMetalJacket]

Yep.

Bullet button = 10 round max. Period.

[woodnsteel]

NO.

[Rusty_Rebar]

If they are pre-ban (and you possessed them before the ban) you are allowed to possess them.

See this post

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=124709

I have not seen anything that says you cannot use them but, and this is a big but:

If you put a >10 round mag in an AR-15 (even with a bullet button or a featureless) it is an Assault Weapon, and must have been registered as such. So you would not be guilty of the large cap mag (assuming you owned it pre-ban) but you would by guilty of an AW Charge, unless your AR is a registered AW.

Now, if you bought a bunch of 30rd surplus mags back in 1999, thinking that you might want to buy an AR someday. And then you bought an AR prior to the AW ban, and registered it as a RAW, then it should be perfectly legal for you to use your 30rd mags in a RAW.

At this point, you cannot register an assault weapon in this state, and it does not seem likely that new registration periods will open up.

[EDIT:] It also seems likely that if in fact you are seen using a 30rd mag, even if you do have an RAW that you will likely be charged with both thos provisions (assault weapon and hi-cap mag) and you will have to deal with some legal expenses to clear your name.

[paul0660]

I have not seen anything that says you cannot use them but

New gun, so it isn't a RAW, so he cannot use them.

[Rusty_Rebar]

Well if he is lucky maybe some state politician will propose a new AW law making his FN FS2000 an AW even with the bullet button (I am not sure how, maybe by changing the definition of detachable mag), and then put in a new registration period for all those with a BB rifle, and he can register it in that period and then use the 30rd in his RAW without the BB.

But that would never happen right?

[AnthonyD1978]

Exactly why I bought my kel tec Su16ca...

[paul0660]

But that would never happen right?

Right. Good mags to use in the desert..........just not a California desert.

[Rusty_Rebar]

Well if you use them in a desert that is not in California, you better make sure you take them apart before you import them back into the state on your way home.

[paul0660]

Well if you use them in a desert that is not in California, you better make sure you take them apart before you import them back into the state on your way home.

Rebar, you don't know what you are talking about. I kinda thought that before, now I know.

Read the OP.