Giving into registration "IS" the plan

[MSO4MATT]

Only tyrants and dictators try to register and then eliminate a free person's access to self defense...and they are working the plan. At what point does a person move from being paranoid to being right.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/21/1172661/-How-to-Ban-Guns-A-step-by-step-long-term-process

[kygen]

they are lookin for a fight

[johnthomas]

They are treading aren't they? Then comes the 1st, going after folks on gun boards. Anyone that dares to defy.

[njineermike]

That spork guy lives in a fantasy alternate reality of his own manufacturing. Even other libs think he's a loony.

[fortdick]

We already have registration. If you legally buy a gun, the sales information go into the FBI database. Holder is bragging about sharing that database with healthcare professionals to get gun out of the hands of as many people as possible.

http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/pending-regs/279345-holder-begins-gun-control-push

" .... The proposed regulations would give local law-enforcement agencies access to the gun-sale database that is maintained by the FBI."

As much as I despise registration, we have to accept it already exists.

[vantec08]

Only tyrants and dictators try to register and then eliminate a free person's access to self defense...and they are working the plan. At what point does a person move from being paranoid to being right.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1...g-term-process

It's less important to me to know I was right than for the deniers to know they were wrong.

[Lone_Gunman]

We already have registration. If you legally buy a gun, the sales information go into the FBI database. Holder is bragging about sharing that database with healthcare professionals to get gun out of the hands of as many people as possible.

http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/pending-regs/279345-holder-begins-gun-control-push

" .... The proposed regulations would give local law-enforcement agencies access to the gun-sale database that is maintained by the FBI."

As much as I despise registration, we have to accept it already exists.

Maybe in CA, not in the rest of the USA where free men can place an ad in the classifieds, exchange cash for a gun in a private sale, and walk away. As it should be I might add.

[MrLawless1]

I sincerely thought this was a "joke" article. Then I saw how the author thought a complete, accurate database of all registered guns could be set up by the govt in six months, and it told me all I need to know.

I still can't get over how people think our govt is efficient at ANYTHING. Have they tried to get a passport lately? I use that question on my friends from other countries all the time:

Friend from Canada or UK or elsewhere-"Lawless, why doesn't your country want free healthcare?"
Me-"How long does it take to get a passport in your country?"
Friend-"2-3 days, a week at most."
Me-"Try 2-3 months or more in the US."
Friend- (shocked look) "Oh..."

People hate going to the DMV for crying out loud.....

So they're going to trust that the govt can register/find/track 300 million guns? Really?

And do they know nothing of international black markets (answer of course is no).

I'm sure they think the drug war is working too. Can't by illegal narcotics on the streets of the US...

I think the long game is possible... Raise ammo prices by taxation, mandate high insurance, and try to price us out...

Which begs two questions:

How are the Left's "beloved poor" going to be "equal" in defending themselves, and how in the world do these people NOT see that they're using Nazi SS-style tactics in forcibly taking away people's fundamental rights?

"Progressive, free-thinking people", indeed...

[MSO4MATT]

Current Government efficiencies or lack there of have a direct correlation to the level of motivation. For example, try not paying your taxes and you will find a swift and highly motivated response to bring you into compliance wrought with major penalties.

If you need a passport... is that really a government problem or a personal problem? see... no motivation.

But if we need to implement a nation wide end of freedom "for the children's sake" you will see a highly motivated response.

Holder has already begun to move on the executive orders.

[Sakiri]

Did the guy that wrote that article really say that cigarettes are expensive and unpopular?

Expensive I can see. Unless you do what my Dad does and buy them on the reservation. Or what a few others I know do and buy them in Canada(go to the duty free, buy your limit per person after staying a weekend with a gang of buds - even if they don't smoke they can buy a few cartons) once a month.

Unpopular? Smokers are going to smoke them regardless of how expensive they are. And I don't know a whole lot of non smokers personally. So yeah, that totally just discredited the guy's opinion imo. His brain's out in space.

[Dutch3]

Did the guy that wrote that article really say that cigarettes are expensive and unpopular?

Expensive I can see. Unless you do what my Dad does and buy them on the reservation. Or what a few others I know do and buy them in Canada(go to the duty free, buy your limit per person after staying a weekend with a gang of buds - even if they don't smoke they can buy a few cartons) once a month.

I roll my own smokes and most of my ammo. It passes the time.

[dieselpower]

I sincerely thought this was a "joke" article. Then I saw how the author thought a complete, accurate database of all registered guns could be set up by the govt in six months, and it told me all I need to know.

I still can't get over how people think our govt is efficient at ANYTHING. Have they tried to get a passport lately? I use that question on my friends from other countries all the time:

Friend from Canada or UK or elsewhere-"Lawless, why doesn't your country want free healthcare?"
Me-"How long does it take to get a passport in your country?"
Friend-"2-3 days, a week at most."
Me-"Try 2-3 months or more in the US."
Friend- (shocked look) "Oh..."

People hate going to the DMV for crying out loud.....

So they're going to trust that the govt can register/find/track 300 million guns? Really?

And do they know nothing of international black markets (answer of course is no).

I'm sure they think the drug war is working too. Can't by illegal narcotics on the streets of the US...

I think the long game is possible... Raise ammo prices by taxation, mandate high insurance, and try to price us out...

Which begs two questions:

How are the Left's "beloved poor" going to be "equal" in defending themselves, and how in the world do these people NOT see that they're using Nazi SS-style tactics in forcibly taking away people's fundamental rights?

"Progressive, free-thinking people", indeed...

the poor are the problem...ever see a map of the gun crime in the US? Hint-- Its looks exactly like a map of the most poverty stricken areas in the US...block by block.

[PhillyGunner]

Don't worry. The powers that be are also planning on pricing Smokers out of smoking as well.

http://news.yahoo.com/penalty-could-keep-smokers-health-overhaul-205840155.html

50% premium increase allowable for smoker's policies beginning next year 'hidden' in the Affordable Care Act.

Wonder when they'll make it illegal to to be fat? "Didn't get to raise your rates while you were a smoker... boy are we glad you gained all that weight quitting!"

[1spartan]

Current Government efficiencies or lack there of have a direct correlation to the level of motivation. For example, try not paying your taxes and you will find a swift and highly motivated response to bring you into compliance wrought with major penalties.

If you need a passport... is that really a government problem or a personal problem? see... no motivation.

But if we need to implement a nation wide end of freedom "for the children's sake" you will see a highly motivated response.

Holder has already begun to move on the executive orders.

+ 1

[Sakiri]

I roll my own smokes and most of my ammo. It passes the time.

Don't have reload equipment(just got into shooting again recently - no money for the equipment either but I'm saving brass >.>) but before I quit smoking I rolled my own too. Carton of smokes for the cost of 2 packs of Marbs. Yeah.

I quit in 07. I don't mind the smell, it reminds me of home(parents smoke). I don't mind if someone says "hey, can you at least move downwind so I don't have to breathe it?" Sure. Move to the other side of them. But when they tell me I can't sit on my own porch and smoke, they can go screw themselves.

/rant off