DoubleTap ammo...The real double tap...2 projectiles, 1 round. Legal?

[DavidR310]

Just saw this on an ad on Guntalk TV...Would this be legal in California?

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=654

Caliber : 9mm+P

Bullet: Two projectiles with each shot. One 115gr. JHP made to expand at lower velocity, followed by a 50gr. flat nosed hardcast bullet for a second wound channel with deep penetration.

Ballistics : 165gr @ 995fps / 365ft. lbs. from a Beretta 92FS.
Ruger SR9 - 900fps. / 297 ft lbs

[wheels]

I was hoping for a shot into gel

ETA

[Wiz-of-Awd]

Sounds like it might be classified as a shot-shell, for lack of something more specific...

A.W.D.

[JDay]

Shotguns shells are legal and they usually have many more than two projectiles.

[Sig556swat]

Shotguns shells are legal and they usually have many more than two projectiles.

Yea but there shot out of an 18.5 inch barrel. I think these would be a no go here in cali

[stingray4540]

18.5" barrel?
What about .38 shot shells out of revolvers?

[huntercf]

Yea but there shot out of an 18.5 inch barrel. I think these would be a no go here in cali

I'm pretty sure they are ok in CA, if they were designed specifically to be fired out of a shotgun then no, but they are like the CCI shotshells which are legal. They cannot be fired out of a shotgun nor were they designed to.

[CSACANNONEER]

Yea but there shot out of an 18.5 inch barrel. I think these would be a no go here in cali

Huh? I've shot 12g shells out of a 7 1/2" barrel legally in CA.

[Quiet]

Duplex (two bullets, one case) ammo has been around for decades and is CA legal.

The US Army dabbled with duplex ammo several times over the decades and each time they cancelled it due to being less effective than ball ammo.
1960s = 7.62x51mm
late-1980s = 5.56x45mm

1960s... (left) 7.62x51mm M59 (right) 7.62x51mm M198

[gun toting monkeyboy]

Yea but there shot out of an 18.5 inch barrel. I think these would be a no go here in cali

Please don't post if you don't know what you are talking about.

-Mb

[cdtx2001]

I don't see why these would be illegal.

First off, if you're worried about a gun that fires 2 projectiles from a single trigger pull, such as the machine gun rules, that's a function of the gun not the ammo.

Second as another person posted, I would say these rank right up there with a shot shell as designed for pistol use. These Double Tap rounds are designed for pistol, not shotgun, use. If they were designed primarily to be used in a shotgun and you were trying to use them in a pistol, you would run afoul with the SBS laws.

My estimation, legal. Now their effectiveness vs the price is another story, meh, I'll stick with standard HP ammo.

[CSACANNONEER]

Duplex (two bullets, one case) ammo has been around for decades and is CA legal.

The US Army dabbled with duplex ammo several times over the decades and each time they cancelled it due to being less effective than ball ammo.
1960s = 7.62x51mm
late-1980s = 5.56x45mm

1960s... (left) 7.62x51mm M59 (right) 7.62x51mm M198

Awesome picture. Are they your cut-a-ways? If they are and you ever decide to get rid of them, I'm interested in added them to the few 50BMG cut-a-ways I own. Here's a picture that Topgun7 took of mine a few years ago:

[paratroop]

18.5"? come on guys. First off That's not even the legal minimum for a shotgun, even though that's what your big5 combo came with.. Secondly it isn't a shotgun shell anyways. Lets try to not spread garbage all over the place. It is ok to not answer if you do not know the answer.