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  • #16
    Moonshine
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2053

    Only a very small number of HARD CORE gun control supporters are out there. The majority of Americans have many issues on their mind, gun control is just an occaisional blip on the radar when incidents like sandy hook go down.

    On the other hand, gun rights advocates only think about one issue: gun rights. They vote based in this issue and have a very long memmory when someone tries a ban. By 2014 those who supported bans will have long forgotten about it, but gun rights advocates will ensure record mid term turn out to get them out of office.

    This is why there hasn't been much gun control recently. The downside to NOT voting for gun control is for a short time the media and constituents will talk trash. But what are they going to do in the mid term election, vote in a pro gun republican? The upside for NOT voting for gun control is that the gun rights advocates don't shift the vote 1-3% costing you the election.

    Now that's not to say that there aren't safe seats like Feinstein but look at all the A-, A, and A+ NRA rated Democrats in the Senate... They know the consequences of a "yes" vote on Feinstein's bills.

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    • #17
      Dragunov
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 1953

      Originally posted by LMTluvr
      Oh right. It's Fox so it must be false...
      Maybe msnbc and piers Morgan would be a more reliable source..
      Well..... THAT was kinda' "Snarky" (And rightfully so!)

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      • #18
        O'Brien
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 36

        You can't use the words "lawmakers" and "think" in the same sentence.

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        • #19
          Carnivore
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 1813

          The wicked witch is on a roll and will not stop even if there wasn't ANY SUPPORT for gun control. Really? come on I know you all are smarter then this.
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          • #20
            Tarn_Helm
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 2126

            As the MSM is fond of saying every time their False Gun Narrative tanks:

            Originally posted by vincewarde
            Well, there is some good news. According to Fox News, current support for any increased gun control has fallen from around 65% to 51% - with 49% opposed.

            This means that lawmakers will need to think long and hard before incurring the wrath of the pro-gun rights lobby over an issue for which only about half the public now supports. It also mean that much of the support for new gun laws is very, very soft - while opposition is as hard as a rock.
            "Unexpectedly!" (Or, in Piers Morgan's rendition: "Incredibly!")

            Everyone needs to calm down.
            No one is doing anything to our gun rights.

            All we have to do is to keep punching back--TWICE AS HARD--with fact, logic, reason, and equanimity, like GOA's Larry Pratt did with that milquetoast, Piers Morgan:


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            • #21
              zonzin
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 860

              Watching that video of Morgan almost made me hurl. No wonder we rebelled against England. I will he would just crawl back to that rock he was born under.
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              • #22
                Pardueski
                Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 135

                Originally posted by Tarn_Helm

                All we have to do is to keep punching back--TWICE AS HARD--with fact, logic, reason, and equanimity, like GOA's Larry Pratt did with that milquetoast, Piers Morgan:
                I agree with this very much. The American public can be riled up to scapegoat things after a tragedy but the proper response is exactly like what Mr Pratt did. Go into the belly of the beast and fight fear with reason. I was struck by how calmly Mr Pratt responded to Piers Morgan and I certainly hope that other pro-gun organizations respond in kind. We certainly can win this fight but we must present a unified, reasonable and clear message.
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                • #23
                  choprzrul
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6544

                  I just remind people that gun control has it's roots in severe racism, that the KKK used it, that gun control has killed millions of people in the last 150 years.

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                  • #24
                    choprzrul
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6544

                    I just remind people that gun control has it's roots in severe racism, that the KKK used it, that gun control has killed millions of people in the last 150 years.

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                    • #25
                      SilverTauron
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 5699

                      Guys, we need to keep something in mind regarding suport for gun control. People who back that kind of policy tend to be simpleminded, emotionally motivated, or involved in professions which are anti-gun to the core.Sometimes it's all three.As such we won't see activist support for gun control like we do for pro 2A rights.

                      That said: it is these quiet masses who will vote our rights right out from under us . They'll vote "YES" on an AWB because THEY don't need an AR15, so why should anyone else be allowed to own and shoot them. A small amount media support for gun control is enough to motivate the idiotic and the uninformed to back the wrong side.
                      The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                      The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                      -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                      The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                      • #26
                        SilverTauron
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 5699

                        Guys, we need to keep something in mind regarding suport for gun control. People who back that kind of policy tend to be simpleminded, emotionally motivated, or involved in professions which are anti-gun to the core.Sometimes it's all three.As such we won't see activist support for gun control like we do for pro 2A rights.

                        That said: it is these quiet masses who will vote our rights right out from under us . They'll vote "YES" on an AWB because THEY don't need an AR15, so why should anyone else be allowed to own and shoot them. A small amount media support for gun control is enough to motivate the idiotic and the uninformed to back the wrong side.
                        The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                        The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                        -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                        The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                        • #27
                          donw
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1754

                          Originally posted by Marthor
                          Let's keep the pressure up.

                          When congress works on a bill in January it should have no new gun control laws, but pass national right to carry and end gun free zones. That would be a step in the correct direction.
                          this is the way to go..

                          i, for one, am tired of having to defend OUR rights every time some nut runs amuck.

                          i've said it before and i will say it again...much of the problem in this country is DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE LEGISLATORS...many, if not most, are irrational people, offering irrational solutions, for irrational problems...

                          just look at the myriad of irrational laws here in California as an example...one that comes to mind is the thumbhole stock as applied to "Assault weapons" or the "Forward mounted, vertical, pistol grip"...makes NO sense at all...

                          i am NOT certain what the answer is...but i'm reasonably certain we don't have a problem with guns and gun laws, per-se, but a societal behavioral problem that's more related to today's cultural problems involving MENTAL issues in individuals.

                          trying to get a legislator to accept, or understand, that is usually difficult to achieve due to the emotional factor involved.
                          NRA life member, US Army Veteran

                          i am a legend in my own mind...

                          we are told not to judge muslims by what a few do...yet, the NRA membership and firearms owners are ALL considered as radical...

                          "The second amendment ain't about your deer rifle..."

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                          • #28
                            pMcW
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 553

                            I just joined GOA after seeing just the first part of this video.
                            pMcW

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                            • #29
                              vincewarde
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1911

                              Originally posted by CBruce
                              Got a better source than FOX?
                              They quoted Gallop as the polling source. So far, the current poll is not on their site, but I highly doubt that they would simply make it up since Gallop could simply deny it. I also doubt that the rest of the media would report such a polling result - especially now.

                              I did find this on Gallop's site: To Stop Shootings, Americans Focus on Police, Mental Health

                              Note that even in the immediate wake of Newtown, their was more support for armed security at schools and increased mental health care than gun control - and this was before the NRA news conference.

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                              • #30
                                fortdick
                                Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 211

                                Originally posted by CBruce
                                Got a better source than FOX?
                                This was a gallup poll. Fox is just reporting the results.

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