1st our guns, whats next our cars

[Moonshine]

Personally i think regulating cars makes more sense than regulating guns. For instance it's easy to prove there's limited amounts of oil in the ground and its not practical to have people who live in the suburbs use a HUGE 4 x 4 truck as a commuter vehicle. Likewise you can argue carbon emissions are causing global warming to accelerate. So at least on some level it is possible to "prove" the ill effects of cars.

On the other hand it is IMPOSSIBLE to prove gun control has any impact whatsoever on crime and violence. The fact that you used to be able to mail order a submachine gun and there were no school shootings and columbine happened during an assault weapons ban shows there is ZERO correlation.

[tcrpe]

What's next? They will regulate your speech.

[winnre]

What's next? They will regulate your speech.

No they can't! If they try I'll take my gun and...and...and....

okay I'll shut up. Hail Obama.


NOT.

[skyscraper]

The car, knife,and hammer analogies fall on deaf ears.

[mud99]

Personally i think regulating cars makes more sense than regulating guns. For instance it's easy to prove there's limited amounts of oil in the ground and its not practical to have people who live in the suburbs use a HUGE 4 x 4 truck as a commuter vehicle. Likewise you can argue carbon emissions are causing global warming to accelerate. So at least on some level it is possible to "prove" the ill effects of cars.

On the other hand it is IMPOSSIBLE to prove gun control has any impact whatsoever on crime and violence. The fact that you used to be able to mail order a submachine gun and there were no school shootings and columbine happened during an assault weapons ban shows there is ZERO correlation.

Many of those huge 4x4 trucks use Diesel engines and get pretty good gas mileage compared to smaller vehicles.

As an example, my Dodge 3500 gets 18-22 mpg. My Toyota Tacoma only gets 15-20.

Everyone demonized the ford excursion, but it got nearly 20mpg since it had a diesel.

Also, you can't place much faith in EPA fuel mileage numbers. They don't actually base the mileage on the amount of fuel burned, but on the carbon emitted....stupid....the numbers are much lower than reality for diesel vehicles, and much higher than reality for hybrid vehicles.

[vmwerks]

Stats from the CDC - we need to ban cars with evil features...


Mortality
All injury deaths
Number of deaths: 177,154
Deaths per 100,000 population: 57.7
Motor vehicle traffic deaths
Number of deaths: 34,485
Deaths per 100,000 population: 11.2
All poisoning deaths
Number of deaths: 41,592
Deaths per 100,000 population: 13.5
All firearm deaths
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2

Actually, DUIs and guns are about equal in death. Of approximately 265M cars, there are approximately 10K deaths from DUIs every year. Of the approximately 300M guns, there are approximately 12K deaths every year, excluding suicides.

Of significant note: Overall there are approximately 50K deaths on the roads every year, with only one fifth of those attributed to DUI. Thus, from a statistical point of view, the real danger on the roads is the sober drivers, not the drunk ones.

Actually I have to disagree about the dangers of sober driving. You list total deaths with no regard to the per capita rate. Get the per capita rate and you'll probably see the opposite is true.

[SilverTauron]

Don't worry, the leftist leadership has you covered. Once they've taken away the citizenry's ability to resist with force, the next move involves taxing us out of our wasteful cars and into environmentally responsible cattle cars- err, mass transit.

[SilverTauron]

Don't worry, the leftist leadership has you covered. Once they've taken away the citizenry's ability to resist with force, the next move involves taxing us out of our wasteful cars and into environmentally responsible cattle cars- err, mass transit.