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  • #16
    Trenchfoot
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2012
    • 7293

    It appeared to be a shotgun in the trunk

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    • #17
      stix213
      AKA: Joe Censored
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2009
      • 18998

      Originally posted by Trenchfoot
      It appeared to be a shotgun in the trunk
      Yeah latest info is shotgun was in the vehicle while the AR was used in the shooting, and a 10mm round from his glock ended his rambo revenge fantasy.

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      • #18
        acace
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 22

        Originally posted by 211275
        The "assault rifle" was in the trunk of the car in Sandy Hook was it not? He did the damage with two handguns.
        You are incorrect.

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        • #19
          IVC
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 17594

          Originally posted by SMR510
          How are they going to confiscate something that they arent supposed to be tracking? There is no long gun registration, there is no mag registration...
          And this is precisely why we fight any attempts at registration, direct or indirect such as forcing PPT through FFL-s and creating a paper trail...
          sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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          • #20
            LMTluvr
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 1348

            From a conservative view?
            He's about as conservative Kim Jong .
            Any judge or politician who encourages confiscation of a guaranteed right should be imprisoned as they've obviously become a domestic enemy to the constitution.
            Slayer of abalone and lingcod.

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            • #21
              211275
              Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 333

              Originally posted by IVC
              Completely agree that nobody needs any of that. However, you are advocating for banning it, so it's up to you to formulate what you plan to achieve by such a ban and how we are going to measure the effectiveness.

              If it turns out that your ban was ineffective, then we have to repeal it since a capricious ban is an infringement. Now, we have all the data we need from the 1994-2004 ban and it was ineffective. QED.
              Good point however I wouldnt be advocating it, I just wouldn't have a major issue with it. It would certainly be better to limit the mag cap then to start banning rifles.

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              • #22
                IVC
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2010
                • 17594

                Originally posted by 211275
                Good point however I wouldnt be advocating it, I just wouldn't have a major issue with it. It would certainly be better to limit the mag cap then to start banning rifles.
                I hear ya. However, it's not an either/or proposition. It's step 1, step 2, step 3...

                We cannot give up ground on issues that make no sense. To get to a meaningful discussion, we have to reject things that are weak and cannot hold up in court. It's up to the other side to start accepting that the legal landscape has changed since 1994 and that this time around it's not just about what they can push politically.
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                • #23
                  MigNoche
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1423

                  Check out this website....

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                  We don't need more laws.

                  "* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]"

                  "* Based on survey data from the U.S. Department of Justice, roughly 5,340,000 violent crimes were committed in the United States during 2008. These include simple/aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders.[13] [14] [15] Of these, about 436,000 or 8% were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun.[16]"
                  Last edited by MigNoche; 12-20-2012, 5:44 PM.
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                  • #24
                    Maestro Pistolero
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 3897

                    The "assault rifle" was in the trunk of the car in Sandy Hook was it not? He did the damage with two handguns.
                    No. the Bushmaster was the primary weapon. He killed himself with one of the handguns.
                    www.christopherjhoffman.com

                    The Second Amendment is the one right that is so fundamental that the inability to exercise it, should the need arise, would render all other rights null and void. Dead people have no rights.
                    Magna est veritas et praevalebit

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                    • #25
                      pistol3
                      Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 305

                      I am curious about the 4th amendment issues surrounding the government seizing legally purchased guns. Here we have a federal judge calling for certain types of guns to be made retroactively illegal and seized from the general population. In the new Yee bill, they are going to be calling for ARs with bullet buttons to be made illegal, and I'm sure if at all possible, seized from the general population. Could they get away with it? Obviously if the case came before this self-proclaimed pro-2A judge he would have everyone turning in their guns in a heartbeat.

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                      • #26
                        MigNoche
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 1423

                        Originally posted by Maestro Pistolero
                        No. the Bushmaster was the primary weapon. He killed himself with one of the handguns.
                        The story has changed so many times. Is there a clear consensus yet on what actually happened?
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                        • #27
                          Trenchfoot
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 7293

                          Originally posted by MigNoche
                          The story has changed so many times. Is there a clear consensus yet on what actually happened?
                          medical examiner's statement a couple of days ago said .223 was the primary.

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                          • #28
                            Casey
                            Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 288

                            A judge that doesn't know the difference between a democracy and a Republic should not be sitting on a bench let alone writing anti gun op ed pieces.
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                            • #29
                              Hogstir
                              Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 328

                              Yeah Bans always work so well. Prohibition was a great success I guess. All they are going to do is create a huge black market which the cartels and organized crime would exploit just like they did during prohibition. Don't think we have gun sniffing dogs so it would be fairly easy to smuggle into the US.

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                              • #30
                                Cnynrat
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 2221

                                This idiot is not a conservative.
                                Dave

                                Lifetime Member, Second Amendment Foundation

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