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  • #31
    -hanko
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 14174

    Originally posted by 1911Operator
    If something where to happen, when do you think it would? Im just looking to buy some lowers as soon as Jan comes around the corner. you think its going to be too late by then??
    I think it's too late now.

    Surprised a lot of folks did not sense price increases prior to last month's election.

    -hanko
    True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

    Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

    Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

    A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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    • #32
      Brandsayer
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 16

      There wouldn't be a ban until mid-late January at the earliest. Moderates will need to save face through exploration/committees/ so they can figure out what an "assault weapon" is and poll their constituents to see how they will react to the law in November of 2014/16/18 or in the case for Republicans how their vote will be seen in the primary.
      If it is a majority republican district they will not be able to vote for the bill and win the next election (They are on the 2A side). If the district has a high ratio of dems to republicans, be worried if that politician thinks he can win the next primary without support from 2A republicans.

      My hope is they do nothing on gun control wise. I wouldn't be surprised if new polling shows the majority of Americans are now in favor of gun control. And by majority I mean the 51% that voted for Obama and will now attempt to trample on our rights.

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      • #33
        smogcity
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 1081

        The ban will be retroactive. Everything you own has been deemed banned and your past ownership has been a crime. Please turn yourself into the brady detention center to serve your sentence.

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        • #34
          ibanezfoo
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2007
          • 11329

          I thought Federal laws were only related to interstate trade anyway... Anything you built yourself or was built in the same state was irrelevant to the bans and whatnot... ??
          vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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          • #35
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by ibanezfoo
            I thought Federal laws were only related to interstate trade anyway... Anything you built yourself or was built in the same state was irrelevant to the bans and whatnot... ??
            nope, anything that "affects" interstate commerce can be regulated by the feds.

            grow your own pot in-state and it violates federal law, because by you not buying illegal pot from a dealer, you are depressing the interstate market.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #36
              myk
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2012
              • 5955

              Who knows what's gonna happen. Just buy what you want, get it out of jail ASAP and then rehearse your whole boating accident tirade when and if they come for it. Remember, long guns weren't scheduled to be registered 'till '14...


              I don't always save the world, but when I do, it's in 24 hours or less...

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              • #37
                Brandsayer
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 16

                Originally posted by ibanezfoo
                Anything you built yourself...was irrelevant to the bans and whatnot... ??
                Good Question. Can anybody shed some light on this. During the 1994 10 year ban, was it legal for individuals to build their own private semi-automatic ar-15 lower receivers w/ out adding any of the banned features?

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                • #38
                  ke6guj
                  Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 23725

                  Originally posted by Brandsayer
                  Good Question. Can anybody shed some light on this. During the 1994 10 year ban, was it legal for individuals to build their own private semi-automatic ar-15 lower receivers w/ out adding any of the banned features?
                  yes, and you could even buy 100% lowers as well. you just couldn't build it up in a banned config. The terms "pre-ban" and "post-ban" referred to that.
                  Jack



                  Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                  No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                  • #39
                    Manolito
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2324

                    Start with looking up executive order 6102. Overnight the value dropped 70%. Look at the administration that signed this executive order and what they wanted to do. Devalue the dollar and make it a federal reserve note so they could print as needed not tied to you must have gold orsilver to back the value.

                    I would think those that think executive order could not be used today should read a little. I am truly worried where this is going behind closed doors.

                    If I am missing the mark I am sure you will let me know.

                    Bill

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                    • #40
                      Wherryj
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 11085

                      Originally posted by ke6guj
                      doesn't work that way federally. laws usually go into effect the moment the President signs the bill.

                      the 1986 MG "ban" went into effect May 19, 1986
                      the 1994 AW ban went into effect September 13, 1994
                      Although I suspect that this "gem" wouldn't go into effect immediately upon signing. I suspect that Mr. Gura might just have papers prepared for an injunction. That would at least stall things until a potential SCoTUS showdown.

                      Let's hope that judges like Scalia (who can still read) are still on the court.
                      "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
                      -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
                      "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
                      I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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                      • #41
                        jaymz
                        CGSSA Associate
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 6295

                        It's business as usual until further notice. Buy what you want.
                        War is when your Government tells you who the enemy is......

                        Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.

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                        • #42
                          0nTarg3t
                          Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 118

                          i would think if there was another AW registration us in Cali would be screwed since there already banned here now. why have the majority of Americans turned into low information pussies, led around by there televisions,horrified by the mere sight of a gun?
                          The 9x19mm, 9mm Luger, and 9mm Para are all names for the 9mm we all know and love today. If you shoot someone with one of those other two rounds, plan on him being upset if he finds out about it.

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                          • #43
                            myk
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 5955

                            ^^^Cause it's easier to blame guns or other inanimate objects than to criticize and deal with the flaws in people, human beings...


                            I don't always save the world, but when I do, it's in 24 hours or less...

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                            • #44
                              Mister Demeanor
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 35

                              Originally posted by 1911Operator
                              this sucks!! we get over one problem, prices drop and suddenly another huge issue. now price way up again!
                              Tell me about it! My family was just barely recovering from losing our home in 2009, and looking to pick up a couple of medium rifles, a WWII style carbine, and a Cal compliant AR15. Now, I can't even think about ammo for the few pistols and one hunting rifle we own. I say we because I take my son shooting on weekends. He is very concerned about all this, and I find myself lying, to assure him it will all work out.
                              Last edited by Mister Demeanor; 12-21-2012, 7:36 AM.

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