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  • L84CABO
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2009
    • 8548

    What happens to open orders if a ban is implemented?

    I realize there are lots of unknowns here. But let's say I go into a gun store today and place an order for an AR15 and pay for it in full. What would happen if a ban were to get implemented before the gun was ready? Let's assume it's a ban of the 1994 variety and not one that requires you to turn in all existing guns as well.

    Would I still be allowed to take possession of the rifle when it's ready?
    "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

    Fighter Pilot
  • #2
    glock7
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 3390

    I don't believe you anything to worry about. Purchase with confidence.
    #blackriflesmatter
    <4 years till retirement, can't wait to leave this state
    California, where all of the good stuff is banned, registered, regulated or prohibited, yay.....

    Law abiding firearm owners have no chance in this state.

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    • #3
      dieselpower
      Banned
      • Jan 2009
      • 11471

      the rifle isnt yours until the 10 day wait and DROS is over...so you get your money back - a restocking fee.

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      • #4
        1911Operator
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 2682

        i see on the news that Obama is going to be submitting a ban to congress for january, so we have a month to get what we want or until jan 1st?
        Have an idea or invention? Need something designed and made? Click: HERE
        ✟ In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain."✟

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        • #5
          Moonshine
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 2053

          The soonest a ban could realistically be implemented is probably January 1, 2014 so this is really a question to ask a year from now. Even when SB-23 passed and there was an implementation date sales continued for a while. So if you purchased recently I wouldn't lose any sleep. Build any 80% AKs soon though!

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          • #6
            1911Operator
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 2682

            Originally posted by Moonshine
            The soonest a ban could realistically be implemented is probably January 1, 2014 so this is really a question to ask a year from now. Even when SB-23 passed and there was an implementation date sales continued for a while. So if you purchased recently I wouldn't lose any sleep. Build any 80% AKs soon though!
            ok, so if i bought some stuff in early jan, could it be confiscated if the ban did pass 2014?
            Have an idea or invention? Need something designed and made? Click: HERE
            ✟ In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain."✟

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            • #7
              ke6guj
              Moderator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Nov 2003
              • 23725

              Originally posted by Moonshine
              The soonest a ban could realistically be implemented is probably January 1, 2014 so this is really a question to ask a year from now. Even when SB-23 passed and there was an implementation date sales continued for a while. So if you purchased recently I wouldn't lose any sleep. Build any 80% AKs soon though!
              doesn't work that way federally. laws usually go into effect the moment the President signs the bill.

              the 1986 MG "ban" went into effect May 19, 1986
              the 1994 AW ban went into effect September 13, 1994
              Jack



              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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              • #8
                ke6guj
                Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2003
                • 23725

                Originally posted by 1911Operator
                ok, so if i bought some stuff in early jan, could it be confiscated if the ban did pass 2014?
                we don't have a crystal ball. we dont' know the words of a potential ban that hasn't even been introduced yet.
                Jack



                Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • #9
                  SilverTauron
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 5699

                  OPSEC.

                  Until Bidens panel releases their recommendations,we won't know a thing about how all this can turn out.The time frames on when legislation takes effect can vary.The other side is best advised to take their time,lest a hasty ban not hold up on appeal in court.
                  The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                  The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                  -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                  The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                  • #10
                    1911Operator
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 2682

                    Originally posted by ke6guj
                    doesn't work that way federally. laws usually go into effect the moment the President signs the bill.

                    the 1986 MG "ban" went into effect May 19, 1986
                    the 1994 AW ban went into effect September 13, 1994
                    If something where to happen, when do you think it would? Im just looking to buy some lowers as soon as Jan comes around the corner. you think its going to be too late by then??
                    Have an idea or invention? Need something designed and made? Click: HERE
                    ✟ In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain."✟

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                    • #11
                      SilverTauron
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 5699

                      Originally posted by 1911Operator
                      If something where to happen, when do you think it would? Im just looking to buy some lowers as soon as Jan comes around the corner. you think its going to be too late by then??
                      I repeat , it is not prudent to discuss workarounds for gun control legislation which is still in the planning phase.
                      The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                      The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                      -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                      The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                      • #12
                        SKSer
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 1716

                        Originally posted by 1911Operator
                        If something where to happen, when do you think it would? Im just looking to buy some lowers as soon as Jan comes around the corner. you think its going to be too late by then??
                        Nobody knows when, what, where brother, the government themselves don't even know yet. Im sure they have ideas on what they want to do, but it is impossible to know, and anyone that tells you different is full of BS.

                        If you want some lowers all you can do is buy them as soon as possible, expect price gouging though.

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                        • #13
                          tiki
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1441

                          We don't know what they are going to try to do, but is a confiscation even legally possible? Wouldn't they be on the hook for compensation? Even under eminent domain, they have to pay you what your land is worth.
                          "The problem with quotes found on the Internet is you have no way of confirming their authenticity."
                          -Abraham Lincoln

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                          • #14
                            ke6guj
                            Moderator
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 23725

                            Originally posted by SilverTauron
                            I repeat , it is not prudent to discuss workarounds for gun control legislation which is still in the planning phase.
                            I agree.

                            if you want something, spend your money and take your chances.
                            Jack



                            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                            • #15
                              ke6guj
                              Moderator
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 23725

                              Originally posted by tiki
                              We don't know what they are going to try to do, but is a confiscation even legally possible? Wouldn't they be on the hook for compensation? Even under eminent domain, they have to pay you what your land is worth.
                              but if you can't sell it to anybody, what is its value? scrap weight value?
                              Jack



                              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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