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  • toolman9000
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    • Oct 2005
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    Long Beach Resident Shoots & Kills Alleged Intruder

    Long Beach CA local news and information service


    Downtown LB Resident Shoots & Kills Alleged Intruder; Incident Could Possibly Be Ruled Justifiable Homicide (To Be Determined At Conclusion Of Investigation)

    (Feb. 9, 2008) -- Following-up on a FLASH first reported on our front page (www.lbreport.com) last night as a shooting with no details, LBReport.com now has initial information via LBPD.

    LBPD Public Information Office Nancy Pratt says:

    On Friday Feb. 8 at about 4:38 p.m., LBPD responded to an incomplete 911 call in a condominium complex in the 200 block of Seaside Way and discovered that a male subject had been fatally shot.

    The preliminary investigation revealed that the victim, a 26 year old man who resided at the complex, was in his home when he discovered a suspect entering his residence through a window.

    The victim [resident], fearing for his safety, armed himself and fired at the suspect.

    Police immediately responded to the scene along with LBFD Paramedics who pronounced the suspect dead at the scene.

    At this time, the suspect is only being identified as a 21 year-old LB resident until next of kin is notified.

    Due to the circumstances involved, this incident could possibly be ruled a justifiable homicide but that will not be determined until the conclusion of the investigation.
    Score one for the good guys +1
    "Apparently the kids at the 4-H club that raised my turkey must have fed this bastard snickers bars, muscle milk and, presumably, smaller turkeys." - Tom Mylan
  • #2
    bluestaterebel
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 3052

    the victim is an LAPD officer...
    Originally posted by 11Z50
    Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

    Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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    • #3
      mymonkeyman
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 1049



      In a stretch of units where residents said the shooting possibly occurred, a window of one of the first floor condos had a home-made "No Trespassing" sign:

      "No Trespassing. Violators Will Be Shot. Survivors Will Be Shot Again."



      I wonder if that was the apartment and the guy couldn't read the sign? Reading is fundamental!

      Edit: On second thought, that is probably not a sign you want in your window if you have to prove self-defense at a trial in Kalifornia.
      Last edited by mymonkeyman; 02-14-2008, 12:40 AM.
      The above does not constitute legal advice. I am not your lawyer.

      "[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table."

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      • #4
        hoffmang
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        • Apr 2006
        • 18448

        Originally posted by bluestaterebel
        the victim is an LAPD officer...
        Am I correct to assume you mean that the "victim" in this case is the homeowner and not the deceased alleged perpetrator?

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        • #5
          BlackReef
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          • Apr 2007
          • 3616

          Does having a No Tresspassing sign on your property give you favor in the eyes of the law when an incident like this happens?

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            bluestaterebel
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            • Feb 2006
            • 3052

            yeah, the homeowner is an leo
            Originally posted by 11Z50
            Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

            Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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            • #7
              mymonkeyman
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 1049

              Originally posted by King$nake
              Does having a No Tresspassing sign on your property give you favor in the eyes of the law when an incident like this happens?
              Not really. It's not like an open field where a No Trespassing sign has some legal effect. It's burglary whether or not there is a sign. Whether or not there is a No Trespassing sign does not bear on whether or not the shooting was justifiable.
              Last edited by mymonkeyman; 02-14-2008, 12:56 AM.
              The above does not constitute legal advice. I am not your lawyer.

              "[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table."

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                BlackReef
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                • Apr 2007
                • 3616

                Originally posted by mymonkeyman
                Not really. It's not like an open field where a No Trespassing sign has some legal effect. It's burglary whether or not their is a sign. Whether or not there is a No Trespassing sign does not bear on whether or not the shooting was justifiable.
                I agree, but I was thinking somewhere on the lines like the sign could be a warning to the tresspassor, and the fact that he still stepped onto private property regardless of the sign should be of note.

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                • #9
                  bluestaterebel
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                  • Feb 2006
                  • 3052

                  Originally posted by King$nake
                  I agree, but I was thinking somewhere on the lines like the sign could be a warning to the tresspassor, and the fact that he still stepped onto private property regardless of the sign should be of note.
                  would that be the same as a beware of dog sign?
                  Originally posted by 11Z50
                  Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

                  Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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                  • #10
                    bluestaterebel
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 3052

                    Originally posted by 11Z50
                    Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

                    Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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                    • #11
                      mymonkeyman
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1049

                      Originally posted by bluestaterebel
                      would that be the same as a beware of dog sign?
                      Since a dog attacking (usually) doesn't require a human's intentional intervention, you could argue it's assumption of risk. The problem is that Kalifornia has decided to throw out the perfectly good common law and put in stupid statutory cludges in numerous cases, including for dogs and dog bites. I therefore doubt that any such commonsense would apply.
                      The above does not constitute legal advice. I am not your lawyer.

                      "[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table."

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                      • #12
                        E Pluribus Unum
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 8097

                        There is no need to post a sign; trespassing is trespassing and whether there is a sign or not has no bearing.
                        Originally posted by Alan Gura
                        The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
                        Originally posted by hoffmang
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