Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

SAS -- he, keep, bear, thinking cap

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Scarecrow Repair
    Senior Member
    • May 2006
    • 2425

    SAS -- he, keep, bear, thinking cap

    I think SamiAutoSam is one of the most valuable members here, simply because no one else treads so well combines knowledge with being a poop stirrer. One of my best friends, alas now deceased, was just like that - he could come up with the dangedest conspiracy theories. Your first reaction was Yeah, right. But a second later you were thinking Hey Now Wait A Minute, and then you had to actually stop and consider it to come up with some counter example or proof of it being wrong. Both he and SAS make you think.

    Thus it is with SAS's recent thread on Hillary not being eligible for the presidency because the Constitution refers to "he".

    Now my first reaction was like most people. Oh Come On Sam, stop being ridiculous. But then I got to wondering ...
    one of our complaints about Second Amendment revisionists is their continuing wilful disregard for the original meaning of "keep", "bear", and "arms". Yet here we are all telling SAS that we have to interpret "je" as some modern day neutral pronoun, not in the context of when it was written.

    Did the founding fathers always use "male" when they intended to be geneder-specific, and use "he" as gender neutral?

    Would the founding fathers have considered it reasonable to let women vote, let alone run for political office?

    Were there any women in public office back then, even city council or mayor or whatever they did back then?

    SAS, than you again for stirring the chamber pot. I have said it before, and I will say it many more times, you may be a kook, but you are my kind of kook, and I am very glad to be on the same forum with you.
    Mention the Deacons for Defense and Justice and make both left and right wingnuts squirm
  • #2
    ohsmily
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2005
    • 8938

    Originally posted by Scarecrow Repair
    I think SamiAutoSam is one of the most valuable members here, simply because no one else treads so well combines knowledge with being a poop stirrer.
    Well, you know what they say about opinions...
    Expert firearms attorney: https://www.rwslaw.com/team/adam-j-richards/

    Check out https://www.firearmsunknown.com/. Support a good calgunner local to San Diego.

    Comment

    • #3
      Bishop
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2006
      • 917

      Originally posted by Scarecrow Repair
      SAS, than you again for stirring the chamber pot. I have said it before, and I will say it many more times, you may be a kook, but you are my kind of kook, and I am very glad to be on the same forum with you.
      +1

      One of the things that separates us from other political groups is that we do not demand a political lock-step from our ranks. I think that makes us stronger.
      Originally posted by Jagger
      The words "right" and "people" are ambiguous, dude. Furthermore, the ambiguity was probably intentional.
      This is really all the antis have? I suppose they expected the second amendment to list full names and social security numbers!

      Comment

      • #4
        SchooBaka
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 1141

        The only problem I see with the argument, is that our politicians don't follow the constitution anyways.
        Any one remember what G.W. Bush said about the constitution in 2005? Something about it just being a gd piece of paper?
        Remember in the debates how all the other candidates laughed at Ron Paul for bringing up the constitution?
        There is a major malfunction with our politicians today.

        I salute you SAS for being one who is not afraid to be laughed at and called a conspiracy kook for raising these arguments.
        Last edited by SchooBaka; 02-12-2008, 12:31 PM.
        sigpic

        Comment

        • #5
          aileron
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 3272

          One of my fav posters.

          Look at the tyranny of party -- at what is called party allegiance, party loyalty -- a snare invented by designing men for selfish purposes -- and which turns voters into chattles, slaves, rabbits, and all the while their masters, and they themselves are shouting rubbish about liberty, independence, freedom of opinion, freedom of speech, honestly unconscious of the fantastic contradiction... Mark Twain

          sigpic

          Comment

          • #6
            Paradiddle
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2003
            • 1742

            Hilary isn't a man?

            "That's a man, man"

            Comment

            • #7
              xrMike
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2006
              • 7841

              Originally posted by ohsmily
              Well, you know what they say about opinions...
              Ahhhh, the overflowing abundance of love, it warms the heart.

              I'd want him in my bunker.

              Comment

              • #8
                chickenfried
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2005
                • 7160

                Interesting fact, bwiese and SAS have never been logged in at the same time.
                Originally posted by victor1echo
                Hollywood is satan!!!!
                sigpic

                Comment

                • #9
                  Matt C
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 7128

                  Originally posted by chickenfried
                  Interesting fact, bwiese and SAS have never been logged in at the same time.
                  Nor have they ever been seen at the same place and the same time...
                  I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

                  The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    Soldier415
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 9537

                    Originally posted by Blackwater OPS
                    Nor have they ever been seen at the same place and the same time...
                    I dont think Sam has EVER been seen period...
                    Originally posted by harmoniums
                    Absolutely, I've refused sale before.
                    My gut is good for two things, making poo and spotting crazy
                    Originally posted by bwiese
                    Do not get your legal advice from Forest Rangers or Sheriffs: that's like getting medical advice from your plumber.

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      ohsmily
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 8938

                      Originally posted by Soldier415
                      I dont think Sam has EVER been seen period...
                      I've got a picture of him.

                      Expert firearms attorney: https://www.rwslaw.com/team/adam-j-richards/

                      Check out https://www.firearmsunknown.com/. Support a good calgunner local to San Diego.

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        CCWFacts
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2007
                        • 6168

                        Re: women presidents and "he": Obviously if Hillary wins the Dem. nomination and then the general election, she will become president, regardless of the word "he" in the constitution. A quick glance shows that the word "he" is also used in the description of members of the Senate, and that hasn't stopped Hillary from being a senator, so the word "he" wouldn't stop her from being president either. I'm sure no one is taking this idea seriously here.
                        "Weakness is provocative."
                        Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

                        Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          Matt C
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 7128

                          Originally posted by CCWFacts
                          Re: women presidents and "he": Obviously if Hillary wins the Dem. nomination and then the general election, she will become president, regardless of the word "he" in the constitution. A quick glance shows that the word "he" is also used in the description of members of the Senate, and that hasn't stopped Hillary from being a senator, so the word "he" wouldn't stop her from being president either. I'm sure no one is taking this idea seriously here.
                          The right to vote had a gender specific term didn't it? That took a constitutional amendment to change. Interesting.
                          I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

                          The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            milsurpshooter
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1074

                            Originally posted by ohsmily
                            I've got a picture of him.

                            SAS your identity has been compromised!!!! execute security plan bravo.
                            Weatherby Vanguard 30-06, Ruger 10/22, Mossberg 500, sig-p6/225, springfield GI 45, .

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              383green
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 4328

                              Originally posted by ohsmily
                              I've got a picture of him.




                              But, seriously now... what if SAS and Alison are two personalities of the same schizophrenic person?
                              They don't care about your stupid guns! --Mitch
                              Mark J. Blair, NF6X

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              UA-8071174-1