Military vs Civilian Style, a visual guide

[Casual_Shooter]

i don't see how a person could shoot that configuration any way*...the cheek piece is too low for the optics and the irons look as though they're blocked for the front sight, by the handguard/top rail.

*this is my OPINION only...whoever designed and built it (if it's not a CGI) may be able to shoot thousand yard bullseyes with it...

very interesting concept, though...similar to the M14 upgrade now in service once again.

I believe that is a Sage EBR chassis. The cheek pad height is adjustable.

[mikestesting]

I love it! I put it up on my FB wall per your comment of using it as I see fit.

[Wherryj]

Politicians and antis alike always talk about how civilians should not have access to military style firearms. They also like to talk about how since the 2A was made at a time when everyone had single muzzleloaders that those are really the only kinds of firearms the founders of this country considered to be a right for people to own.

So here's a handy visual aid I whipped up in Photoshop earlier today that kind of explains it all. Feel free to use as you see fit

Your visual guide neglects the fact that all of the arms during the Revolution were pretty much equivalent, but civilian vs. military weapons today have only cosmetic similarities. Civilian weapons are hardly considered the same now.

[p2rider426]

Clouds the "cosmetic differences" and the semi vs full issue.
Need to get the point across that semi's are not military arms.
I'd agree, but not a good graphic for the masses.
Get your right to a semi auto back first.
Besides, that AR is fitted out with Tapco, obviously not .mil. :-)

... What AR?

Edit: Nvm, just read through the full thread and understand there were revisions to the original pic.

[Uxi]

It's awesome! Now I wish I hadn't sold mine, but it is a lot cheaper to shoot the AR

I prefer and have been thinking of getting the fixed stock non pistol grip version.... mmm sage...

[POLICESTATE]

Your visual guide neglects the fact that all of the arms during the Revolution were pretty much equivalent, but civilian vs. military weapons today have only cosmetic similarities. Civilian weapons are hardly considered the same now.

Which was already discussed and accommodated by changing from an M4/AR to M1A instead.

When you really come down to it, our civilian guns in some cases are better than the military ones anyway

Also if one just gets their NFA tax stamp they can go full auto, SBR, SBS, sound suppressors and all kinds of fun stuff. The other point I wanted to make is that if the guns were the same back then, they should be the same now in terms of capabilities and function. I don't know, it's never going to be perfect I suppose, at least not until we get 2A sorted out

[Uxi]

Civilian arms have often been BETTER than military weapons since procurement system has to weigh other factors than simply the best (most notably logistics, maintenance, ease of training, etc).

[CBlacksheep]

No, government is dangerous (and there is overwhelming proof of this throughout history in every continent) and that is why it's best to not only make the government up of people, but also that the people be armed as government cannot guarantee their safety, either against criminals or government.

It's sarcasm. Lighten up.

[Wherryj]

Which was already discussed and accommodated by changing from an M4/AR to M1A instead.

When you really come down to it, our civilian guns in some cases are better than the military ones anyway

Also if one just gets their NFA tax stamp they can go full auto, SBR, SBS, sound suppressors and all kinds of fun stuff. The other point I wanted to make is that if the guns were the same back then, they should be the same now in terms of capabilities and function. I don't know, it's never going to be perfect I suppose, at least not until we get 2A sorted out

Shhh! Don't tell the congress critters that hunting rifles, etc. are BETTER than small caliber military weapons. When they are done manufacturing the "assault weapon" scare, they'll come after those next!

Yikes!

[donw]

I believe that is a Sage EBR chassis. The cheek pad height is adjustable.

i stand corrected...

[Psy Crow]

Whenever I hear the "back then they had muskets" argument, I tell them this:<snip>

I like to point out that "back then", the muskets the colonists had were state-of-the-art military weapons and that the American Revolution was fought and won with these.

If they persist I point out that the Revolution was also fought with privately owned artillery (canon) and ships of war.