Top California Democrats rally around new assault weapons bill

[IVC]

They are now saying they support the 2nd Amendment. The truth is they lie.

They always supported 2A, just their own version. Heller put an end to that version (collectivism, militia) and McDonald forced it on them (incorporation against states). It's just a matter of time until they are told by the courts that they are wrong.

If they pass the law and we get a preliminary injunction, it will be a hard blow for any future legislation of the kind. If we don't get the injunction and they end up supporting a push to the SCOTUS, we get a chance to get some serious questions answered once and for all.

[njineermike]

They always supported 2A, just their own version. Heller put an end to that version (collectivism, militia) and McDonald forced it on them (incorporation against states). It's just a matter of time until they are told by the courts that they are wrong.

If they pass the law and we get a preliminary injunction, it will be a hard blow for any future legislation of the kind. If we don't get the injunction and they end up supporting a push to the SCOTUS, we get a chance to get some serious questions answered once and for all.

We have the illustrious 9th on our side, don't we? Surely an injunction will be granted......

[OleCuss]

Steinberg was already committed to passage. That means that the Democrat leadership was already supporting the legislation.

There's really nothing new here.

[jonzer77]

We have the illustrious 9th on our side, don't we? Surely an injunction will be granted......

What happened to the ammo ban last year that was passed and signed into law? I can't remember at the moment.

[njineermike]

What happened to the ammo ban last year that was passed and signed into law? I can't remember at the moment.

They haven't been exactly freindly to our cause, despite a few flukes.

[freonr22]

What they don't understand is that it's already against the law to use more than 10 rounds in a semi auto rifle such as the AR anyway. They are not thinking clearly. This must STOP!! They are now saying they support the 2nd Amendment. The truth is they lie. Politicians want us to be like Australia where crime has tripled since they had their guns taken away by the government.

Politely, you are mistaken. in a featureless, or a RAW, this is incorrect

[G lock]

after the ban in AUS

[phdo]

This isn't good for us. Talk about bad timing with all the wackjobs in the news.

[neouser]

after the ban in AUS

Here's the video to that graphic...

[POLICESTATE]

No more acquiescence. We gave up too much already, wayyyy too much. And the NRA looks at gun control as a compromise situation.

It's all BS. Here is the so-called compromise the gungrabbers offer us:

Hey, if you work with us, we'll just take a LITTLE bit of your rights, otherwise we come for them all.

That is not compromise. That is an ultimatum. In a compromise both parties get something.

We haven't gotten ****.

We have simply acquiesced on one ban after another. Full auto, detached mags, mag capacity, concealment, carrying, etc etc

Look where we are today. Compare it to what it was like 100 years ago, not even the same right anymore.

You follow this to its logical conclusion then 50 years from now we'll have to right to own a muzzle-loading RIFLE but have to register it and we will only be able to transport between home and range/hunting.

That is the ultimate agenda of the gungrabbers. A total ban on firearms, they'll have to keep the muzzle loaders (well until they can completely trash the 2A with either another amendment or a Constitutional Convention).

[BluNorthern]

Neutering our guns isn't enough for them.
And Dems are never gonna lose their majority here.

[IVC]

We have the illustrious 9th on our side, don't we? Surely an injunction will be granted......

It doesn't go straight to the 9th. It starts at the lower level.

Also, don't shortchange the courts. While they might have their judicial frameworks when it comes to the questions of law vs. policy, an injunction is much more a matter of facts *before* they come to addressing the policy. When we talk about "activist judges," it's about how they use law vs. policy, rarely about fact finding during preliminary injunction phase.

[jonzer77]

Neutering our guns isn't enough for them.
And Dems are never gonna lose their majority here.

This is the main reason I am leaving in two years, preferably Idaho or Texas. I am still going to give them he'll while I am here though.

[Vlad 11]

http://redwoodcity.patch.com/articles/what-to-do-about-guns

Keigwin stressed that while Democratic lawmakers such as Yee support second-amendment rights including ownership of hunting rifles and other single shot weapons. The type of weapons on the market today are too harmful to be available to anyone," he said.

Yee support second-amendment rights ....

including ownership of hunting rifles ... "deer hunting rifles ... ban those too - A Keigwin "

single shot weapons.

[njineermike]

This is the main reason I am leaving in two years, preferably Idaho or Texas. I am still going to give them he'll while I am here though.

Tenessee, South Dakota or Arkansas for me. I'll fight while I'm here, but when I'm gone this place can sink into the sea for all I care.