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  • gunsmith
    Senior Member
    • May 2004
    • 2028

    what is the source for the "60 mass murders" claim?

    Recently ( on Fox News ) Jesse Jackson's daughter ( Santita? not sure of the spelling )
    has been all over fox news shows claiming that there has been "60 mass murders" since the Gabby Gifford AZ shooting, no one ever challenges her, as a matter of fact, fox news recently seems to be going out of its way to avoid having anyone who knows anything about 2A issues on the air.

    So, anyone have any idea the source for the "60 mass murders" claim and 2nd, what can we do to pressure fox news to have someone like Gene H or Bill W on there to refute the idiots they have had on there lately.
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    Casket
    Junior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2012
    • 55

    She must be counting Mexico or something..

    According to this there has been approximately 56 mass murders with firearms since 1982.
    Here is Mother Jones’ groundbreaking database, now documenting 155 public attacks since 1982.
    Last edited by Casket; 08-05-2012, 10:23 AM.

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      jdberger
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2005
      • 8944

      The Brady's count any shooting where more than 2 people were shot. I can find the source in a little bit.
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        gunsmith
        Senior Member
        • May 2004
        • 2028

        Originally posted by jdberger
        The Brady's count any shooting where more than 2 people were shot. I can find the source in a little bit.
        thanks, so in other words when the little old lady who shot at the five guys robbing her jewelry store, that was a "mass shooting"?

        I knew it had to be something like that, why cant fox news do its job?
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        • #5
          Rand B. Wilson
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 212

          Originally posted by gunsmith
          why cant fox news do its job?
          It's getting more and more difficult to find ANY news outlet that can actually do it's job.. it's just faster and easier to do research by going to google and hitting the "i'm feeling lucky" button, and/or not challenging or checking what anyone says.. because, you know, it might take too long..
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          • #6
            MontClaire
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 4859

            You're up against the windmill if you think you can pressure political mouthpiece in to anything.

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            • #7
              njineermike
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2010
              • 9784

              Since the source obviously has a rectally implanted cranium, that's where the numbers came from.
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              Dude went full CNN...
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                hk91666
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 1945

                Originally posted by gunsmith
                Recently ( on Fox News ) Jesse Jackson's daughter ( Santita? not sure of the spelling )
                has been all over fox news shows claiming that there has been "60 mass murders" since the Gabby Gifford AZ shooting, no one ever challenges her, as a matter of fact, fox news recently seems to be going out of its way to avoid having anyone who knows anything about 2A issues on the air.

                So, anyone have any idea the source for the "60 mass murders" claim and 2nd, what can we do to pressure fox news to have someone like Gene H or Bill W on there to refute the idiots they have had on there lately.
                Why should she tell the truth look who her father is. He never does!
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                  gunsmith
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2004
                  • 2028

                  Glenn Beck was against gun rights, but kept an open mind and became a vocal supporter of RKBA , we need to let them know we are watching and have the real facts handy, facts we can cite.
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                  • #10
                    Wherryj
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 11085

                    Originally posted by gunsmith
                    thanks, so in other words when the little old lady who shot at the five guys robbing her jewelry store, that was a "mass shooting"?

                    I knew it had to be something like that, why cant fox news do its job?

                    ...or when two gang bangers shoot each other.
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                    • #11
                      timdps
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                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 3440

                      Originally posted by Casket
                      She must be counting Mexico or something..
                      Or Chicago...

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                        Wiz-of-Awd
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 3556

                        Originally posted by gunsmith
                        ...I knew it had to be something like that, why cant fox news do its job? ...
                        It does - according to whomever pays them.

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                          Connor P Price
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1897

                          Originally posted by Wherryj
                          ...or when two gang bangers shoot each other.
                          The antis LOVE gangs. Gangs are the reason they can spout off misleading statistics every day.

                          Brady Campaign loves to talk about how many people die every day due to gun shot wounds and they use that number to scare people into thinking they are in danger. The reality is that a huge chunk of those people are gang bangers so the average person is not in nearly as much danger as they suggest and most Americans aren't terribly concerned with gang bangers shooting eachother or being shot by the police.

                          Antis also love to talk about the number of "kids" killed by guns. They try to make it sound like they are all accidental shootings by kids that find inherently dangerous guns. In reality most of those kids are 16 and 17 year old gang bangers well on their way to becoming hardened criminals.

                          Then we have bs claims like this about "mass shootings" that are mostly gang bangers shooting eachother over drugs.

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                            a1c
                            CGSSA Coordinator
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 9098

                            I don't think this belongs in this forum.
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                            • #15
                              POLICESTATE
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 18185

                              The individuals who murder most prolifically are Serial Killers and they very very rarely use guns.

                              But the media won't make those kinds of comparisons; a gun murder gets one and sometimes two or a few more incidents before they are captured/killed. A serial killer typically goes on for years and dozens and dozens of victims.

                              The lesson here of course is it's not about the tool, it's about the individual. In a way, we save more lives because we have guns, using a gun gets a lot of attention so you don't get far.

                              And yeah, this seems more OT to me, but that's just my opinion
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