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  • Wiz-of-Awd
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 3556

    FOX News Story - Why I Own an Assault Rifle

    Interesting...



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    Seven. The answer is always seven.
  • #2
    adampolo13
    Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 252

    I didn't like the way it ended... He never explained why he owned a semi-automatic rifle yet called it an asault weapon. Anti crap written to sound like it came from a gun owner.

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    • #3
      senorpeligro
      Senior Member
      CGN Contributor
      • Jun 2011
      • 508

      There's a lot of that going around, I saw something like that on The Atlantic today. I won't provide a link.

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      • #4
        JON KARGATHALON
        Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 299

        He had some valid points, but just as he said, he was speaking for both sides, and ended up not being too rational about CCW. Yes training is key, But if people are dying around you, FOR GODS SAKE take the shot! even if you had very little training! if it may prevent further death, TAKE THE ****** SHOT!
        I bit me a vampire once, Them there fellers..taste like corn..

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        • #5
          Jason_2111
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 3831

          There are some very valid points in the article, but keep in mind where it is coming from.
          This is a civilian that isn't a more hardcore enthusiast or former military person. He is definitely much more the "average Joe" than even your standard calgunner.
          A completely untrained person with a gun is not very much more effective than a person with no gun, IMHO. If the author is going to be armed, a big part of that is training.

          I know dozens of people that would have dropped that fool in the theater, or at least made a valiant effort. Then again, these are all former LE, former military, or just folks that actively train.

          Unfortunately, just being willing to own a gun isn't good enough. It's not some magic talisman that keeps the boogeyman away... you gotta have training.

          (I know, preaching to the choir... but it emphasizes my point that the article has a narrow view from a true average Joe, not an average calgunner.)

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          • #6
            JON KARGATHALON
            Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 299

            Originally posted by Jason_2111
            There are some very valid points in the article, but keep in mind where it is coming from.
            This is a civilian that isn't a more hardcore enthusiast or former military person. He is definitely much more the "average Joe" than even your standard calgunner.
            A completely untrained person with a gun is not very much more effective than a person with no gun, IMHO. If the author is going to be armed, a big part of that is training.

            I know dozens of people that would have dropped that fool in the theater, or at least made a valiant effort. Then again, these are all former LE, former military, or just folks that actively train.

            Unfortunately, just being willing to own a gun isn't good enough. It's not some magic talisman that keeps the boogeyman away... you gotta have training.

            (I know, preaching to the choir... but it emphasizes my point that the article has a narrow view from a true average Joe, not an average calgunner.)
            Nope your absolutely right, i was just saying that someone with a gun and minimal training is better than fish in a barrel, like it ended up being.
            I bit me a vampire once, Them there fellers..taste like corn..

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            • #7
              SoCalXD
              Senior Member
              CGN Contributor
              • Dec 2006
              • 969

              Weak!

              He is pretty much saying that an armed citizen is a danger in public. That goes against the opinion of just about every deputy sheriff I know who works the street.

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              • #8
                PackingHeatInSDCA
                Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 456

                When I hear this I automatically tell pepole to watch the compelling testimony of Suzanna Gratia Hupp after she survived the Luby's massacre in 1991 which took the life of 23 people, including her parents. this is really must see video for anyone throwing out any opinions (regardless of which side you are on):




                also found a good arguement from a LEO on the icnn something page:

                The following is a quote from BanditLEO on the iCNN page. BanditLEO is a law enforcement officer:


                Does anyone know what the one common denominator is in every massacre that has happened lately? Colorado, Sweden, Columbine, etc... The bad guys had guns and no one else did. The reason why 70 people were injured is because that city had an ordinance stating that it is a crime to carry a concealed weapon inside a business that has posted signs barring firearms. Did that stop the gunman? No it did not and thus left a room full of victims with no means to protect themselves and their loved ones. Does anyone know that in april of this last year there was another shooting in Aurora Co? No because it did not reach massacre status because an off-duty officer shot and killed the individual after he had killed his first victim. Had that off-duty officer not been there it would have been another massacre, yet one law abiding citizen with a firearm was able to end the threat quickly and with minimal lives lost.
                They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
                -Benjamin Franklin

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                • #9
                  UFO hunter
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 1669

                  This is the article that I'd write:

                  Why I Own an Assault Rifle

                  Because I can.

                  Take that, biatches!

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                  • #10
                    Untamed1972
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 17579

                    A few thoughts:

                    I think he, like many avg. citizens, is under the misconception about how much firearms training and practice LE actually get. Unless you're SWAT....it ain't that much. And even then.....as he stated.....military/LE have no idea how they're gonna react until it actually happens. But does that mean someone should not train as best they can anyway?

                    Having options (weapons, training, awareness, etc) are all better than having nothing.

                    Ultimately it seems like he was just ranting that people should not be politicizing this. It's a tragedy...pray for and mourn the victims and leave it at that. Which I can agree with.
                    "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                    Quote for the day:
                    "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                    • #11
                      Vlad 11
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2961

                      "assualt rifle cartridges" .... Really???

                      Once again the media gets the facts wrong ,,, and who cares about some randoms guys opinion as if he is some authority on typical gun owners and their ability. He doesn't even know that what he owns is not an 'assault rifle'

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                      • #12
                        Lagduf
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 675

                        I doubt the validity of his claim that he owns an assault rifle.

                        If it's semi-automatic then by definition it's not an assault rifle.

                        And if the author is so clueless with regard to what kind of rifle he owns then well...let's just say I didn't bother to take much stock with regard to what he had to say about arms.
                        Originally posted by Gio
                        It is so nice to drop mags freely even though I do that now with my featureless AR and AK it is not the same as the real thing. Like Coca Cola here in the US compared to Mexico with real sugar not corn syrup!

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                        • #13
                          1BigPea
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 1102

                          Meh...that was a waste of my time.
                          Originally Posted by Wherryj
                          I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                          • #14
                            Glock22Fan
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2006
                            • 5752

                            "Owning a fiream doesn't make you a shooter any more than owning a piano makes you a musician - and for much the same reasons" Col. Jeff Cooper
                            John -- bitter gun owner.

                            All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
                            I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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                            • #15
                              TempleKnight
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 918

                              Originally posted by JON KARGATHALON
                              He had some valid points, but just as he said, he was speaking for both sides, and ended up not being too rational about CCW. Yes training is key, But if people are dying around you, FOR GODS SAKE take the shot! even if you had very little training! if it may prevent further death, TAKE THE ****** SHOT!
                              I went to see "Dark Knight Rises" Tuesday and I couldn't help scoping out the exit doors during the previews. I always sit in the second row up from the rail; it's less than 10 yards from anywhere the shooter would have been. I believe I would have taken the shot. I do have a LTC; I am fortunate to live in Placer county where they trust us.
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