One of those stores that won't do SSEs

[stevesurfs]

I think the question for a CA dealer is not about CA law. It's a question of whether the dealer is engaged in manufacturing and is in violation of a type 1 FFL. If a dealer receives a 1911 pistol, it is entered into their bound book as a semi auto pistol. It would not match the CA DROS forms going out as a single shot and would be hard to explain during an ATF audit. So it makes sense to me that a CA FFL might not want to do SSE conversions.

[kcstott]

I personally wouldn't risk it either if I were him to be honest...

You never know when you'll encounter a "knowledgeable" LEO who has the entire CA Roster MEMORIZED (yes, ALL of it). He finds your off-roster gun, finds out you got it via SSE but you converted it back, you're gonna be in trouble...

Exactly what kind of trouble and under what statute??

[kcstott]

I think the question for a CA dealer is not about CA law. It's a question of whether the dealer is engaged in manufacturing and is in violation of a type 1 FFL. If a dealer receives a 1911 pistol, it is entered into their bound book as a semi auto pistol. It would not match the CA DROS forms going out as a single shot and would be hard to explain during an ATF audit. So it makes sense to me that a CA FFL might not want to do SSE conversions.

The Quark or Gene Hoffman Posted a thread on SSE and Manufacturing. It was cleared up that swapping parts is not "manufacturing" and the 07 FFL requirement was not needed. Any FFL dealer could swap parts and sell said firearm.

So the Gunsmith takes in a pistol that is one caliber. Barrel is toast. So he swaps barrels and calibers at the same time. Data will not match the book as entered but the book has a spot for repairs/modifications made.

Theres nothing illegal about it. You just have to do it right. And that means lots of documentation. If you can't baffle then with BS bury them in paper work!!

[CSDGuy]

I think the question for a CA dealer is not about CA law. It's a question of whether the dealer is engaged in manufacturing and is in violation of a type 1 FFL. If a dealer receives a 1911 pistol, it is entered into their bound book as a semi auto pistol. It would not match the CA DROS forms going out as a single shot and would be hard to explain during an ATF audit. So it makes sense to me that a CA FFL might not want to do SSE conversions.

Unless said dealer is a 07FFL and follows all the requirements... 01 FFL's can't do what an 07 FFL can...

[DVSmith]

The Quark or Gene Hoffman Posted a thread on SSE and Manufacturing. It was cleared up that swapping parts is not "manufacturing" and the 07 FFL requirement was not needed. Any FFL dealer could swap parts and sell said firearm.

So the Gunsmith takes in a pistol that is one caliber. Barrel is toast. So he swaps barrels and calibers at the same time. Data will not match the book as entered but the book has a spot for repairs/modifications made.

Theres nothing illegal about it. You just have to do it right. And that means lots of documentation. If you can't baffle then with BS bury them in paper work!!

I have posted in the SSE thread questions about Gene Hoffman's declaration that an 07 is not needed.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=383692&page=12

It certainly seems from FAQ info on the BATF website that an 07 would be needed. I am waiting for someone to answer those questions. Not being an 07, I certainly wouldn't do that conversion without clear documentation from the BATF that it was not in fact manufacturing.