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  • #16
    EM2
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 4884

    These cases are largely unknown outside the courthouses here, but they have raised difficult questions about what, if anything, the government owes to innocent people locked in prisons.

    The government owes them the right to be released.
    For christ sake they are talking about turning their back on these people!
    "duck the femocrats" Originally posted by M76

    If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. Col. Jeff Cooper

    Originally posted by SAN compnerd
    It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.

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    • #17
      Meplat
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2008
      • 6903

      Originally posted by dantodd
      No. What they did THEN was not a crime THEN but they got convicted anyway. Any of the cases that were jury trials should be tossed out. As for anyone who is in on a plea deal I don't know what should happen.
      sigpicTake not lightly liberty
      To have it you must live it
      And like love, don't you see
      To keep it you must give it

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      I will go now, and fight you."
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      • #18
        Meplat
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 6903

        Originally posted by Drivedabizness
        "We are not outcome driven"

        Is it NOT called the Dept of JUSTICE???

        Every swingin' dick who knew about this and did not move to correct the error should be a) fired, b) pension/benefit stripped, c) open for litigation & punitive damages.

        That'd fix their attitudes, in a hurry!
        Better yet. For every day, after becoming aware of compelling evidence of factual innocence of a defendant, that any Judge or prosecutor associated with a case, delays notifying the defendant or his council, that Judge or prosecutor should be liable for two days detention, in the same facility, under the same circumstances.
        sigpicTake not lightly liberty
        To have it you must live it
        And like love, don't you see
        To keep it you must give it

        "I will talk with you no more.
        I will go now, and fight you."
        (Red Cloud)

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        • #19
          huntercf
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 3114

          Originally posted by Meplat
          Better yet. For every day, after becoming aware of compelling evidence of factual innocence of a defendant, that any Judge or prosecutor associated with a case, delays notifying the defendant or his council, that Judge or prosecutor should be liable for two days detention, in the same facility, under the same circumstances.
          ^^^THIS
          Most of them are not saints BUT our system is suppose to be set up so people are not wrongfully convicted even though it happens. If they are innocent of the charges they are in for then they need to be let go today, NOT tomorrow. It burns me up that prosecutors know people are innocent but they still want to keep them in jail/prison. IMO any prosecutor who refuses to free innocent people should be immediately taken to jail.
          Gun control is a 1" group at 500 yds!

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          • #20
            Mulay El Raisuli
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 3613

            Originally posted by Nick Justice
            I'm surprised to see such a story in USA Today. They hate guns. Why do they care?

            The pendulum is swinging. Looks like even USA Today is seeing the injustice inherent in "gun laws."

            This is a good thing.


            The Raisuli
            "Ignorance is a steep hill with perilous rocks at the bottom"

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            • #21
              randian
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 1293

              "because their sentences were calculated incorrectly"

              That seems like an easier appeal avenue. If you're in prison for five years for a crime that has a max sentence under the law of 3 years, and you've actually been in prison more than 3 years, it would seem a slam-dunk case for gaining freedom. I don't see how a DA could argue against that, even in plea bargain cases.

              I don't understand why the DAs think "he actually carried the gun" has any legal weight. Since that conduct wasn't illegal, they might as well be saying "he was eating an ice cream cone".

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