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Microstamping & Todd Lizzotte statement in article...
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Anytime a politician says "I support the 2A and I'm a member of the NRA, but..." I know they are a liar and a scumbag.
Adding that "but..." is an automatic disqualification to their supposed support of the 2A. Sadly, it makes it sound like us gun owners come in two varieties, reasonable and unreasonable and there's nothing we can do to shut these dbags up.Please read the Calguns Wiki
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
--Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"Comment
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sigpicTake not lightly liberty
To have it you must live it
And like love, don't you see
To keep it you must give it
"I will talk with you no more.
I will go now, and fight you." (Red Cloud)Comment
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[img]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/503/pic0050ls.jpg[/img]I vaguely remember there being a couple of chronic chit-chat clubs that included most of the usual anti suspects at that hearing, and one of the groups definitely included Todd, though the others were fuzzier because I wasn't really able to put faces in the room to a lot of the names I knew at that time. They were always chatting whenever one of the many, many breaks were taken. He certainly wasn't hanging out with the Pro-2A people that was for sure it was pretty clear what his allegiances were.
Pictures I took probably turned out too fuzzy to be useful though. My phone has such a bad camera.
Best one I took but it's unclear if he, much less anyone else, is clearly visible in it:
OK... sorry I didn't visit with you there.
Todd Lizotte - is at the far right near the white post, in suit, blue shirt, yellowish tie, facing toward camera.
Juliet Leftwich (LCAV) - very near, but tad left of center of pic - a small blond woman with longer wavyish permed hair facing 45 deg to the right addressing 4-5 other people.
Charles Blek (Million Moms etc.) - standing facing viewer at angle, near center of pic - balding older man, grey sportcoat. Husband of Mary Leigh Blek who I think attended this meeting but was not in this pic.Both active in Brady/MMM work. [Their son was killed in NYC in 90s walking around after midnight (drug buy? unclear - he did attend Humboldt State).
The Bleks identify as Republican. When they visit legislators' offices, they're often fairly unwelcome (both parties!) as they are known as 'screamers' and have been asked to leave several times. (Most CA legislators, or at least their aides, will politely hear out polite constituents even if fundamental disagreement on issue.).
Black T-Shirt Women - Brady/MMM staffers. I believe Karen Arntzen was there, just not in this pic.
An aide for Sen. Hollingsworth was there, taking notes.
NRA staff didn't attend because it was already in the bag at a higher level ;-)
Bill Wiese
San Jose, CA
CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.Comment
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Hold it right there. If you are calling her a "broad", I suspect your side of the conversation was not quite as civil as you think it was. I understand this quote is not from your facebook chat, it is from your CGN post, but it makes me wonder what you did say in the facebook chat.Mention the Deacons for Defense and Justice and make both left and right wingnuts squirmComment
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How do you know he is not correct; I demand a measurement!!Hold it right there. If you are calling her a "broad", I suspect your side of the conversation was not quite as civil as you think it was. I understand this quote is not from your facebook chat, it is from your CGN post, but it makes me wonder what you did say in the facebook chat.
sigpicTake not lightly liberty
To have it you must live it
And like love, don't you see
To keep it you must give it
"I will talk with you no more.
I will go now, and fight you." (Red Cloud)Comment
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I can email you the entire discussion if you would like.Hold it right there. If you are calling her a "broad", I suspect your side of the conversation was not quite as civil as you think it was. I understand this quote is not from your facebook chat, it is from your CGN post, but it makes me wonder what you did say in the facebook chat.Comment
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