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  • #16
    Gray Peterson
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2005
    • 5817

    Originally posted by The DRis
    I was just involved in a Facebook debate about our gun rights, what are "reasonable" laws, and micro-stamping.

    I have almost lost all hope for humanity. These people are THE dumbest people on the planet. I stayed extremely civil the entire debate and it ended up being shut down because the liberal broad on the other end of the debate told me: "You are F***ing NUTS! JUST F****ING NUTS!"

    When I asked her why I was nuts she said: "You are a dumb**s motherf****er!"

    All becaue I asked her why an XD with a S/S slide was unsafe, but an XD with a black slide was safe. Also why is a Black slide XD safe, but a Black Slide with Night Sights isn't? Even though I can take said black slide and change out the sights to night sights, 100% legal. I also asked her what would stop a criminal from picking up my brass at a range and planting it at the crime scene. Or what would stop the criminal from replacing the firing pin, or filing off the microstamp.

    I can't handle this anymore. These people are stupid.
    Gun control is a religion.

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    • #17
      CHS
      Moderator Emeritus
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2008
      • 11338

      Anytime a politician says "I support the 2A and I'm a member of the NRA, but..." I know they are a liar and a scumbag.

      Adding that "but..." is an automatic disqualification to their supposed support of the 2A. Sadly, it makes it sound like us gun owners come in two varieties, reasonable and unreasonable and there's nothing we can do to shut these dbags up.
      Please read the Calguns Wiki
      Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
      --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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      • #18
        Meplat
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 6903

        Originally posted by Fyathyrio
        Not surprised to hear this at all, my BS meter pegged when I read that quote.
        What quote?
        sigpicTake not lightly liberty
        To have it you must live it
        And like love, don't you see
        To keep it you must give it

        "I will talk with you no more.
        I will go now, and fight you."
        (Red Cloud)

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        • #19
          bwiese
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Oct 2005
          • 27621

          Originally posted by PEBKAC
          I vaguely remember there being a couple of chronic chit-chat clubs that included most of the usual anti suspects at that hearing, and one of the groups definitely included Todd, though the others were fuzzier because I wasn't really able to put faces in the room to a lot of the names I knew at that time. They were always chatting whenever one of the many, many breaks were taken. He certainly wasn't hanging out with the Pro-2A people that was for sure it was pretty clear what his allegiances were.

          Pictures I took probably turned out too fuzzy to be useful though. My phone has such a bad camera.

          Best one I took but it's unclear if he, much less anyone else, is clearly visible in it:
          [img]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/503/pic0050ls.jpg[/img]


          OK... sorry I didn't visit with you there.

          Todd Lizotte - is at the far right near the white post, in suit, blue shirt, yellowish tie, facing toward camera.

          Juliet Leftwich (LCAV) - very near, but tad left of center of pic - a small blond woman with longer wavyish permed hair facing 45 deg to the right addressing 4-5 other people.

          Charles Blek (Million Moms etc.) - standing facing viewer at angle, near center of pic - balding older man, grey sportcoat. Husband of Mary Leigh Blek who I think attended this meeting but was not in this pic.Both active in Brady/MMM work. [Their son was killed in NYC in 90s walking around after midnight (drug buy? unclear - he did attend Humboldt State).
          The Bleks identify as Republican. When they visit legislators' offices, they're often fairly unwelcome (both parties!) as they are known as 'screamers' and have been asked to leave several times. (Most CA legislators, or at least their aides, will politely hear out polite constituents even if fundamental disagreement on issue.).

          Black T-Shirt Women - Brady/MMM staffers. I believe Karen Arntzen was there, just not in this pic.


          An aide for Sen. Hollingsworth was there, taking notes.


          NRA staff didn't attend because it was already in the bag at a higher level ;-)

          Bill Wiese
          San Jose, CA

          CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
          sigpic
          No postings of mine here, unless otherwise specifically noted, are
          to be construed as formal or informal positions of the Calguns.Net
          ownership, The Calguns Foundation, Inc. ("CGF"), the NRA, or my
          employer. No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as
          legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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          • #20
            Scarecrow Repair
            Senior Member
            • May 2006
            • 2425

            Originally posted by The DRis
            I have almost lost all hope for humanity. These people are THE dumbest people on the planet. I stayed extremely civil the entire debate and it ended up being shut down because the liberal broad on the other end of the debate.....
            Hold it right there. If you are calling her a "broad", I suspect your side of the conversation was not quite as civil as you think it was. I understand this quote is not from your facebook chat, it is from your CGN post, but it makes me wonder what you did say in the facebook chat.
            Mention the Deacons for Defense and Justice and make both left and right wingnuts squirm

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            • #21
              Meplat
              Calguns Addict
              • Jul 2008
              • 6903

              Originally posted by Scarecrow Repair
              Hold it right there. If you are calling her a "broad", I suspect your side of the conversation was not quite as civil as you think it was. I understand this quote is not from your facebook chat, it is from your CGN post, but it makes me wonder what you did say in the facebook chat.
              How do you know he is not correct; I demand a measurement!!
              sigpicTake not lightly liberty
              To have it you must live it
              And like love, don't you see
              To keep it you must give it

              "I will talk with you no more.
              I will go now, and fight you."
              (Red Cloud)

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              • #22
                The DRis
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 593

                Originally posted by Scarecrow Repair
                Hold it right there. If you are calling her a "broad", I suspect your side of the conversation was not quite as civil as you think it was. I understand this quote is not from your facebook chat, it is from your CGN post, but it makes me wonder what you did say in the facebook chat.
                I can email you the entire discussion if you would like.

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