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I'm unloading some of my airsoft guns to buy real stuff. I have a buyer for one of my airsoft guns who is willing, but doesn't have cash. He does have a credit card. One of my local FFL's has the M&P .40 package I'm after. Could it be considered a straw buy if I were to meet my buyer at the FFL, he were to pay for the M&P with his credit card, but I do all of the DROS forms?
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The FFL will be extremely suspicious and might not allow the sale regardless of circumstances. Tell your friend to take the card to the bank and pay you the cash. -
Do you have a paypal account?Comment
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+1.
Sounds like a responsible citizen, buying toys when he doesn't have the cash to pay for them!!
Also, my fiancee bought me a shotgun for christmas - she swiped her card to pay and I filled out the forms. Can't imagine how it would be different for you, if you choose to go forward with the plan you propose. Love that woman!Comment
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Not necessarily a straw buy, but many FFL's will not want anything to do with this. Just use paypal to send you the money from his CC as already suggested.Comment
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You can try it - but unless you are well known to the FFL, they probably won't do it. It have done this once when buying a gun for my son - he filled out the forms, etc and we used my card. Of course they could see the same last name on the card.......Comment
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My philosophy has always been "in God we trust, all others pay cash".
Have him get cash or you probably won't have a good time at the gun store.Custom made Tail Gunner Trailer Hitch for sale.
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As much as I'm wanting that M&P, I just told the guy to show me cash or forget it. Starting to be too much trouble. I just was wondering if the deal was even possible legalwise.Comment
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Possible, yes. Dealers are expected to scrutinize such things but they make the decision. It's not written into the law anywhere that he can't do it. If he believes you are the actual transferee, he may just go ahead with it but don't expect that...especially if it's just a gun shop employee.
Go with cash.Last edited by halifax; 06-07-2012, 7:46 PM.Jim
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I really don’t want to start an argument with anyone here, but much of the information posted here is just plain wrong. A straw purchase is when someone buys a gun for another because the person who ends up with the gun cannot legally buy it. It does not matter who pays or writes the check.
The issue is who fills out and signs the federal form 4473, and in California who is the gun going to be registered to.
Question # 12a on form 4473 is the question that covers this issue. The following is a direct cut and paste from form 4473.
"Are you the actual buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form? Warning: You are not the actual buyer if you are acquiring
the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual buyer, the dealer cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you."
Now I do understand that a dealer may be concerned if two guys walk in and one fills out the form and the other pays, but that does not change the issue. In the eyes of the law who pays does not matter. The only issue is who is the real owner going to be, and that must be the person that fills out and signs form 4473.Last edited by 003; 06-07-2012, 8:46 PM.Comment
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Where do you see wrong information posted in this thread?
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Not a straw purchase by definition at all! I have read on Calguns that some dealers frown upon this though! Never have I had this issue at a gunstore....but that is what I have read!NRA MEMBERComment
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