UOC in my area

[disturbed1]

Hello peeps, I have tried searching online for the codes or laws against UOC. I remember that one of the few places we can UOC was in BLM land and unincorporated areas. Well, it so happens that the area I reside in which is known as EL Modena located in the city of Orange in Orange County. El Modena happens to be an unincorporated area. So, What are the laws or codes I should look up so that I may practice this UOC. Also, I was trying to look up a map of the area to know where the boundaries are so that I may not run into trouble. Let me get one thing straight here, I AM NOT LOOKING FOR TROUBLE or FISHING for attention from the cops or sheriffs although I do realize that this may get some unwanted attention. I just want to convince people that guns are good as long as you are responsible. Oooone more thing, in regards to CCW or LTC, I know it is up to the Sheriff to grant the CCW but would me living in an unicorported area help me out at all or not really. Thank you all for your time.

[unusedusername]

My understanding is that UOC is really only still legal in places where you could loaded open carry anyways, like BLM land where shooting is legal. I could be wrong here, but that is what I remember from reading the ban bill a while back.

Why would you UOC when you could load up?

The unincorporated area language also states that it must be legal to shoot there, if I remember correctly. Check your county ordinances on that one. I know that shooting (even in unincorporated areas) of San Mateo county is prohibited, so open carry is also illegal there.

[mud99]

I know several people who shoot in unincorporated San Mateo and Santa Clara County. Do you have a PC reference?

[unusedusername]

Mud99: Look here

Edit to add: essentially this means you can hunt (where, when, and how hunting is legal) and fire at a "regularly established firing, shooting or target range", but you can not shoot anywhere else. You can not just mag dump at a berm on "some dude's" property unless your building permits/ and or land-use permits for the "some dude's" property included a shooting range.

I am not a lawyer. I am frequently wrong.

[taperxz]

My understanding is that UOC is really only still legal in places where you could loaded open carry anyways, like BLM land where shooting is legal. I could be wrong here, but that is what I remember from reading the ban bill a while back.

Why would you UOC when you could load up?

The unincorporated area language also states that it must be legal to shoot there, if I remember correctly. Check your county ordinances on that one. I know that shooting (even in unincorporated areas) of San Mateo county is prohibited, so open carry is also illegal there.

There is no blanket prohibition in San Mateo county. People hunt and shoot on the coast quite often on their private land. In fact, in most places in SM CO. unincorporated areas the laws probably fall under safety issues. Most unincorporated land in SM like Emerald Hills is simply to populated to shoot safely or to be huntable.

LOL didn't see your quote. That law is pretty broad to be taken as a shooting ban FWIW

[stix213]

My understanding is that UOC is really only still legal in places where you could loaded open carry anyways, like BLM land where shooting is legal. I could be wrong here, but that is what I remember from reading the ban bill a while back.

This ^^^ is my understanding too. If you can shoot you can open carry. So might as well open carry loaded.

[mud99]

3.52.030(c) exempts shooting on your own property or with permission from the owners.

To the OP: Are you looking to shoot on your own property? Because otherwise, you likely aren't going to find any unincorporated land in California that isn't owned by an individual or by the state. If you do find land like this, might as well build yourself a little cabin and move in...

[taperxz]

3.52.030(c) exempts shooting on your own property or with permission from the owners.

To the OP: Are you looking to shoot on your own property? Because otherwise, you likely aren't going to find any unincorporated land in California that isn't owned by an individual or by the state. If you do find land like this, might as well build yourself a little cabin and move in...

I think the federal government owns plenty of land in this state allowing people to shoot firearms. Don't you?

[mud99]

Make that: "you likely aren't going to find any unincorporated land in California that isn't owned by an individual or by the state or by the federal government".

I think the federal government owns plenty of land in this state allowing people to shoot firearms. Don't you?

[Glock22Fan]

I think the federal government owns plenty of land in this state allowing people to shoot firearms. Don't you?

If there wasn't, it would not be possible to find public hunting land, and there is a fair amount of that.

It really varies by county. L.A. County, for example, has a fair amount of its inincorporated land covered under a shooting ban. Kern County is pretty much the reverse. Just depends where you live and where you travel to.

[taperxz]

If there wasn't, it would not be possible to find public hunting land, and there is a fair amount of that.

It really varies by county. L.A. County, for example, has a fair amount of its inincorporated land covered under a shooting ban. Kern County is pretty much the reverse. Just depends where you live and where you travel to.

It seems like you guys down there have it way different than up here. Its a bit more wild west up here except for maybe Mr. Green Jeans.

[taperxz]

Make that: "you likely aren't going to find any unincorporated land in California that isn't owned by an individual or by the state or by the federal government".

OKAYY that pretty much covers ALL LAND. What kind of land is there that isn't Owned by the state, county or fed or private property?

[Decoligny]

Hello peeps, I have tried searching online for the codes or laws against UOC. I remember that one of the few places we can UOC was in BLM land and unincorporated areas. Well, it so happens that the area I reside in which is known as EL Modena located in the city of Orange in Orange County. El Modena happens to be an unincorporated area. So, What are the laws or codes I should look up so that I may practice this UOC. Also, I was trying to look up a map of the area to know where the boundaries are so that I may not run into trouble. Let me get one thing straight here, I AM NOT LOOKING FOR TROUBLE or FISHING for attention from the cops or sheriffs although I do realize that this may get some unwanted attention. I just want to convince people that guns are good as long as you are responsible. Oooone more thing, in regards to CCW or LTC, I know it is up to the Sheriff to grant the CCW but would me living in an unicorported area help me out at all or not really. Thank you all for your time.

You can't live in an unincorporated area IN the city of Orange. An unincorporated area only exists OUTSIDE of city limits. Anything within city limits is by definition INCORPORATED.

[Librarian]

You can't live in an unincorporated area IN the city of Orange. An unincorporated area only exists OUTSIDE of city limits. Anything within city limits is by definition INCORPORATED.

You'd think so, but not always true.

I have a friend who lives in an unincorporated area. It's a neighborhood entirely surrounded by the City of Concord, but it receives no city services (water, sewer, garbage; the FD is a joint county/city thing) - the folks who live there have voted against annexation a couple of times, and the City is not interested in forcing the issue.

We just received our quarterly water district newsletter, and his neighborhood is this little blotch of white surrounded by blue.

[taperxz]

You'd think so, but not always true.

I have a friend who lives in an unincorporated area. It's a neighborhood entirely surrounded by the City of Concord, but it receives no city services (water, sewer, garbage; the FD is a joint county/city thing) - the folks who live there have voted against annexation a couple of times, and the City is not interested in forcing the issue.

We just received our quarterly water district newsletter, and his neighborhood is this little blotch of white surrounded by blue.

Yep, South San Francisco, Redwood City and a few others have "pockets of unincorporated areas within city limits.