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  • ubet
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 1557

    The Supreme Court...?

    I dont know why, but as I was showering this morning, I got to thinking about the 2a and SCOTUS. Looking at the birthdates of Ginsburg, Kennedy, Breyer, and Scalia, is their a chance that the next POTUS might have the chance to replace half, if not all of them?

    Then I got to thinking, if barack gets re elected, what a complete and utter DISASTER that would be. I had been thinking about writing in a candidate, but now, because of the age of 4 of the Justices, might just have to stomach it and vote for Romney, God knows we dont want bho to be able to nominate anymore justices. Is this a fair assessment?
  • #2
    yellowfin
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2007
    • 8371

    We've been thinking about that since around February 2008 or so.
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    • #3
      loather
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 909

      Don't vote for the lesser of two evils candidate. Vote for who you really want to do the job.

      If everyone did this instead of sheepishly playing along with what the media/political assclowns want you to do, we wouldn't get ourselves into this predicament.

      People just don't understand how to vote. The purpose of voting is to cast a vote for the person you want to take the job, not "the person that can win" or "the person from the other party of the guy you don't want to win."

      Again, if everyone voted for the person they actually wanted, instead of the one that gets the most national news time, the country would be in much better shape.

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      • #4
        TacticalPlinker
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 2532

        Originally posted by ubet
        I dont know why, but as I was showering this morning, I got to thinking about the 2a and SCOTUS. Looking at the birthdates of Ginsburg, Kennedy, Breyer, and Scalia, is their a chance that the next POTUS might have the chance to replace half, if not all of them?

        Then I got to thinking, if barack gets re elected, what a complete and utter DISASTER that would be. I had been thinking about writing in a candidate, but now, because of the age of 4 of the Justices, might just have to stomach it and vote for Romney, God knows we dont want bho to be able to nominate anymore justices. Is this a fair assessment?
        Holy crap!

        Ginsburg 1933
        Scalia 1936
        Kennedy 1936
        Breyer 1938


        Yeah, that's a fair assessment. At nearly 80 years of age, I really can't see them going on for too much longer. Souter was born in 1939 and retired in 2009. It's not a far stretch to say all 4 could retire in the next 4 years. Scary to think who might replace them.
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        • #5
          tacticalcity
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Aug 2006
          • 10891

          Originally posted by loather
          Don't vote for the lesser of two evils candidate. Vote for who you really want to do the job.

          If everyone did this instead of sheepishly playing along with what the media/political assclowns want you to do, we wouldn't get ourselves into this predicament.

          People just don't understand how to vote. The purpose of voting is to cast a vote for the person you want to take the job, not "the person that can win" or "the person from the other party of the guy you don't want to win."

          Again, if everyone voted for the person they actually wanted, instead of the one that gets the most national news time, the country would be in much better shape.
          In the primary election you would be correct. In a general election you are dead wrong. Doing it your way lead to Bill Clinton. Remember Ross Perot? Once the primary is settled and the general election is on, you have to choose a side.

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          • #6
            paul0660
            In Memoriam
            • Jul 2007
            • 15669

            Originally posted by loather
            Don't vote for the lesser of two evils candidate. Vote for who you really want to do the job.

            If everyone did this instead of sheepishly playing along with what the media/political assclowns want you to do, we wouldn't get ourselves into this predicament.

            People just don't understand how to vote. The purpose of voting is to cast a vote for the person you want to take the job, not "the person that can win" or "the person from the other party of the guy you don't want to win."

            Again, if everyone voted for the person they actually wanted, instead of the one that gets the most national news time, the country would be in much better shape.
            I know you are serious, but you are wrong.

            As for the original point, scotus is one of the few reasons to vote. Of course in this state the Dems are a lead pipe cinch, so scratch that reason.
            *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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            • #7
              1stLineGear
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 1662

              Originally posted by loather
              Don't vote for the lesser of two evils candidate. Vote for who you really want to do the job.

              If everyone did this instead of sheepishly playing along with what the media/political assclowns want you to do, we wouldn't get ourselves into this predicament.

              People just don't understand how to vote. The purpose of voting is to cast a vote for the person you want to take the job, not "the person that can win" or "the person from the other party of the guy you don't want to win."

              Again, if everyone voted for the person they actually wanted, instead of the one that gets the most national news time, the country would be in much better shape.
              You could not be more wrong. So you want Obama to select 4 new supreme court justices?
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              • #8
                Cnynrat
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 2221

                I believe Ginsberg has some health issues as well, so she seems likely to retire soon. Quite a difference between 0bama having a chance to replace her and maintain the current balance for a long time, vs. Romney having the chance to shift the balance.

                While Scalia is getting up there in years, he is healthy and still seems to have a lot of energy. I would hope he would hold on thru a second 0bama term if for no other reason than to deny 0bama the chance to replace him with someone of Kagan's/Sotomayer's ilk.
                Dave

                Lifetime Member, Second Amendment Foundation

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                • #9
                  jwkincal
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1609

                  If you don't vote for Romney, you are inviting another Supreme Court Justice in the mold of Sotomayor or Kagan onto the court. This would be a bad thing for the advance of Second Amendment Rights in our country.

                  I doubt that anything else matters nearly as much. Many folks have said (perhaps rightly so) that there isn't a whole lot of difference at the policy level between the two candidates, but there is a difference in judicial nominations.

                  Purists can argue until the cows come home about proper electoral motive, voting your conscience and all that pretty philosophy; the bottom line is that all politicians on the national stage are compromised and Presidential politics matter a lot less than most people think (by design, you know... as the RP folks say, 'read the Constitution').

                  The one thing that DOES MATTER, and matters RIGHT NOW because of the position of our movement, is the power of the Executive Branch to make Judicial Nominations. We've seen what BHO's nominees look like, there's NO WAY Mittens could do worse, and he has financial constituencies which will influence him to do better.

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                  • #10
                    wazdat
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 514

                    Originally posted by loather
                    Don't vote for the lesser of two evils candidate. Vote for who you really want to do the job.

                    If everyone did this instead of sheepishly playing along with what the media/political assclowns want you to do, we wouldn't get ourselves into this predicament.

                    People just don't understand how to vote. The purpose of voting is to cast a vote for the person you want to take the job, not "the person that can win" or "the person from the other party of the guy you don't want to win."

                    Again, if everyone voted for the person they actually wanted, instead of the one that gets the most national news time, the country would be in much better shape.
                    That might work if the President were elected by popular vote.
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                    • #11
                      Cnynrat
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 2221

                      Originally posted by wazdat
                      That might work if the President were elected by popular vote.
                      True. In California where it is inevitable that our Electoral votes will bring cast for 0bama, we have the opportunity to vote our conscience.
                      Dave

                      Lifetime Member, Second Amendment Foundation

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                      • #12
                        email
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2503

                        Calling loose electron, come in loose electron...we have a situation here...

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                        • #13
                          ptoguy2002
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3863

                          Originally posted by loather
                          If everyone did this instead of sheepishly playing along with what the media/political assclowns want you to do, we wouldn't get ourselves into this predicament.
                          I can sympathize with the sentiment, but this is such a load of BS. If everybody did this you'd end up with a BHO or dem president every time.
                          Wake up and join reality.
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                          • #14
                            Gray Peterson
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 5817

                            From a legal work perspective, in re the legal work CGF and other legal orgs such as SAF, it's safer for us to assume an Obama win in terms of determining our directions of legal work. The whole, "never make your plan with the rosy path, always use the worst one" thing.

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                            • #15
                              Untamed1972
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 17579

                              Originally posted by ubet
                              I dont know why, but as I was showering this morning, I got to thinking about the 2a and SCOTUS. Looking at the birthdates of Ginsburg, Kennedy, Breyer, and Scalia, is their a chance that the next POTUS might have the chance to replace half, if not all of them?
                              What concerns me is....why are you thinking about guns and old guys in the shower? LOL
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