Slide fire Saar-15sbs

[ragenmoan]

Any know I'd slide fire's Saar-15 sbs bp fire stock is illegal in California?

[Untamed1972]

There is a whole stickied thread on it in the rifle section

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=527201

[cntrolsguy]

Stay Away From It!!!!

[Fate]

Stay Away From It!!!!

[ragenmoan]

The text should have said " anyone know if the slide fire ssar15 bump fire stock is illegal in California.

[cntrolsguy]

The text should have said " anyone know if the slide fire ssar15 bump fire stock is illegal in California.

The Link untamed put up should give you all the info you need. In short, Yes it is illegal.

[RazzB7]

In case anyone hasn't said it. It's illegal, stay away from it

[stix213]

Has anyone been arrested and/or prosecuted for one yet? How an actual court case turns out could either confirm or change the current legal theory regarding this stock.

[huntercf]

I don't think anyone has been arrested yet; however even though the BATF says it is legal, the CA DOJ doesn't comment on whether something is legal until after someone is arrested. Based on the PC it is probably illegal and would cost you big $$ to fight it and most likely you would be convicted.

[BigDogatPlay]

Has anyone been arrested and/or prosecuted for one yet? How an actual court case turns out could either confirm or change the current legal theory regarding this stock.

It's a multi-burst trigger activation device, which are called out specifically in the Penal Code, IMO. That particular statute can be interpreted very broadly. I don't know if there is a prosecution, bweise would, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were.

[VegasND]

I keep talking myself into and then out of purchasing one; I'm pretty sure I'll be buying a slide-fire stock in the next few months.

[bwiese]

1. I believe there have been convictions for the HellFire trigger activator.

2. The SlideFire device is no different given its behavior vs. interface with the definition of 'multiburst trigger activator'.

3. It's a pretty slam-dunk case to convict on given breadth of definition
reasonable clarity thereof, and SlideFire's own marketing materials touting
speed. The fact that 'trigger' is part of the name has little to nothing to
do with the definitions, which are based on operational end results.

[nicki]

We like our toys too.

1. I believe there have been convictions for the HellFire trigger activator.

2. The SlideFire device is no different given its behavior vs. interface with the definition of 'multiburst trigger activator'.

3. It's a pretty slam-dunk case to convict on given breadth of definition
reasonable clarity thereof, and SlideFire's own marketing materials touting
speed. The fact that 'trigger' is part of the name has little to nothing to
do with the definitions, which are based on operational end results.

We are not trying to be "kill joys", we are trying to keep people from becoming felons and not only losing their guns rights, but other rights as well.

Yes California laws are messed up, especially when compared to other states.

Believe me, when I saw this device, I thought cool, but then I got to thinking did California have something they could screw me with if I got one and then I remembered about the felony multi burst activator law

This device even if it was legal isn't going to be much fun in Cali anyway unless you have a RAW because you would have to limit mag capacity to 10 rds.

Nicki

[stix213]

It's a multi-burst trigger activation device, which are called out specifically in the Penal Code, IMO. That particular statute can be interpreted very broadly. I don't know if there is a prosecution, bweise would, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were.

Yes I realize that is the current legal thinking, and I've been a part of every thread on the topic here.

If though someone had been arrested, charged, and found not guilty by a CA court, that would change everything. Since the stock has now been available for a rather long time, is known to be in the hands of many californians (as evidenced by numerous threads on sightings of the stock at local gun ranges), I'm pretty surprised we don't have any case law yet, hence my question on arrests/prosecutions.

[Librarian]

Yes I realize that is the current legal thinking, and I've been a part of every thread on the topic here.

If though someone had been arrested, charged, and found not guilty by a CA court, that would change everything. Since the stock has now been available for a rather long time, is known to be in the hands of many californians (as evidenced by numerous threads on sightings of the stock at local gun ranges), I'm pretty surprised we don't have any case law yet, hence my question on arrests/prosecutions.

You could buy one and call up DOJ and say 'neener-neener-neener!'.

Not something I'd recommend, but it would answer the question.