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  • botica@live.com
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 89

    A question about full auto parts.

    Sorry, I know this is probably a dumb qestion .Are folding stocks legal in cali to own when not attached to a firearm? must they be welded and or pinned fix or disassembled as parts? Can they be bought or sold?

    what about full auto trigger packs or parts. not in a firearm. are they illegal or legal in cali? Can they be bought or sold?
    thanks in advance , botica
    Last edited by botica@live.com; 05-26-2012, 5:02 PM.
  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30241

    A folding stock by itself is legal.

    However, if you possess a handgun and an unattached folding stock designed for that handgun, you may run afoul Federal & state constructive possession laws regarding SBRs.

    Other than that, they are legal to own by themselves.

    Issues may arise when you attach it to a certain types of firearms.
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    • #3
      botica@live.com
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 89

      thanx , But without a firearm,possession ,buying ,selling is legal ?

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      • #4
        bwiese
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Oct 2005
        • 27621

        Originally posted by botica@live.com
        thanx , But without a firearm,possession ,buying ,selling is legal ?
        Generally per Quiet's advice above, yes.

        Notable exception is the "SlideFire" SSAR15 stock (and the AK version too) that facilitates bumpfilre/more rapid firing (according to even their own promotional literature & sales videos).

        These devices are considered 'multiburst trigger activators' and are separately illegal even when not attached to a gun and even when no gun is possessed.

        Bill Wiese
        San Jose, CA

        CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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        • #5
          motorhead
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 3409

          yes. legal on a fixed mag rifle as well as long as the required 30" OAL is maintained.
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          • #6
            bohoki
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 20787

            Originally posted by bwiese
            These devices are considered 'multiburst trigger activators' and are separately illegal even when not attached to a gun and even when no gun is possessed.
            well we don't have an official response yet

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            • #7
              botica@live.com
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 89

              thanks!

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              • #8
                MotherGunner
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 82

                Hi Guys, I just saw this and wanted an opinion. You obviously cannot operate the rifle while in the folded position. Thoughts?



                -MG

                Sic Vis Bellum, Para Matrimonium
                (If you want War, Prepare for Marriage)

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                • #9
                  bigcalidave
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 4489

                  I don't see how a stock that retains the buffer prevents the weapon from firing at least once in the folded position. It seems to come with a new design buffer, but how does it prevent the hammer from falling?
                  ...

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                  • #10
                    MotherGunner
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 82

                    Dave, that's an excellent point that escaped me. Looking forward to other opinions but it's looking more illegal* by the minute...


                    *IMO when used on a CA configured rifle
                    Last edited by MotherGunner; 05-24-2012, 11:57 AM.
                    -MG

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                    • #11
                      botica@live.com
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 89

                      ttt

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                      • #12
                        Army
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 3915

                        Originally posted by bigcalidave
                        I don't see how a stock that retains the buffer prevents the weapon from firing at least once in the folded position. It seems to come with a new design buffer, but how does it prevent the hammer from falling?
                        That one is piston driven, with it's operating spring extending forward over the operating rod housing. The spring "pulls" the bolt carrier back into battery. So, no need for a buffer and spring in the buttstock.
                        "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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