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  • Big Chudungus
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2021
    • 3159

    a FUD-meister mentioned Calguns efforts in Newsom recall.

    He said Calguns was hitting up people to sign but they were afraid their guns would be taken if they put themselves on the list, and that is why recall failed.
    I told him "AFAIK it was on the ballot but lose in voting". He seemed to think it lost because not enough people signed the Recall, and that its not just voting but how many people sign some Recall list that counts, and that is why Oakland recall worked.https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_governi..._in_California

    Anyone know WTF he was talking about? Seems like it takes 12% of voters to get a Recall election and that is that.
  • #2
    Spanky8601
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 2262

    Was the person you were talking to a Gun Store Clerk? Just asking.
    May I always be the type of person my dog thinks I am

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    • #3
      Big Chudungus
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2021
      • 3159

      Originally posted by Spanky8601
      Was the person you were talking to a Gun Store Clerk? Just asking.
      pretty much, ex-cop now doing Security and BSIS related stuff, has FFL and sells guns.

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      • #4
        HDRoadGlide
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2022
        • 31

        The Newsom recall effort resulted in a special election held on September 14, 2021. Newsom survived the recall with 62% voting no for the recall and 38% voting yes.

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        • #5
          Mute
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 8540

          The recall failed because CA idiot voters bought into the TDS and believed that the strongest contender, Larry Elder, would have been Trump's stooge if he became governor. They didn't so much voted to keep Newsom as they did to vote against Trump. Our state is infested without low information voters.
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          • #6
            The Gleam
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 12347

            Originally posted by Mute
            The recall failed because CA idiot voters bought into the TDS and believed that the strongest contender, Larry Elder, would have been Trump's stooge if he became governor. They didn't so much voted to keep Newsom as they did to vote against Trump. Our state is infested without low information voters.
            Technically, the recall didn't fail - it was a success and the recall vote held as planned. It was voters which failed the intent of why the recall was sought, but the outcome was expected.

            I work in an industry that is likely 65% Republican, 25% Democrat, and 10% that are indifferent. The larger portion of all three are likely indifferent to gun ownership.

            But when I started asking/persuading colleagues to vote for Larry Elder, many proclaimed they would still be voting for Newsom on 'principle' merely because they didn't believe in recalls - and that was many of those 65% Republicans saying that.

            They sickly justified that if he got such a large majority to get elected, a recall was an unethical move against the majority of voters' wishes.

            Like abused children.

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            Originally posted by Librarian
            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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            • #7
              Mute
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 8540

              Originally posted by The Gleam

              Technically, the recall didn't fail - it was a success and the recall vote held as planned. It was voters which failed the intent of why the recall was sought, but the outcome was expected.

              I work in an industry that is likely 65% Republican, 25% Democrat, and 10% that are indifferent. The larger portion of all three are likely indifferent to gun ownership.

              But when I started asking/persuading colleagues to vote for Larry Elder, many proclaimed they would still be voting for Newsom on 'principle' merely because they didn't believe in recalls - and that was many of those 65% Republicans saying that.

              They sickly justified that if he got such a large majority to get elected, a recall was an unethical move against the majority of voters' wishes.

              Like abused children.

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              Like dumb@#$
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              • #8
                Big Chudungus
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2021
                • 3159

                I thought Larry Elder was not a great choice. I'm mildly into politics but I was like "who?" I'd never even heard his name and I'm lifer CA. Supposedly he is sorta big on LA radio or something. Plus he is Black in a State with not that many, and unless you are Black as part of DNC machine you got nothing.

                Shoulda been another movie star/athlete(they call body building a sport) like Arnold. Someone like Chuck Connors or The Rock, or Jesse Ventura, but CA or at least Hollywood based. Maybe David Hassalhoff.

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                • #9
                  Sgt Raven
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 3824

                  At times I think can they go any lower? Then one of them will say 'hold my beer'.

                  Column: Larry Elder is the Black face of white supremacy. You've been warned. Erika D. Smith. Los Angeles Times
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                  • #10
                    Capybara
                    CGSSA Coordinator
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 15283

                    Commifornia voters had the chance to cut out the Cancer that is Gavin Newsom from the state body. They instead chose to let the Cancer remain, spread and metastasize. I've always thought that
                    in the grand scheme, the real enemy of California is the easily misled, brainwashed and bamboozled voters who put these *** clowns into office. The politicians are, of course, the scum of the earth,
                    but they are just the symptom. The disease is the electorate here.
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                    • #11
                      BAJ475
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 5102

                      Originally posted by Capybara
                      Commifornia voters had the chance to cut out the Cancer that is Gavin Newsom from the state body. They instead chose to let the Cancer remain, spread and metastasize. I've always thought that
                      in the grand scheme, the real enemy of California is the easily misled, brainwashed and bamboozled voters who put these *** clowns into office. The politicians are, of course, the scum of the earth,
                      but they are just the symptom. The disease is the electorate here.
                      Can't disagree. That is why I am in Idaho!

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                      • #12
                        Garv
                        RSG Minion, Senior
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 9014

                        Larry Elder is on 870 AM in Los Angeles 3 - 6 PM weekdays.

                        Worth listening to at least once.
                        Originally posted by Kestryll:
                        It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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                        • #13
                          Ewok55
                          Member
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 312

                          The only chance of it passing would have been to keep it at a low enough level that the incumbent didn't take I seriously ane didn't flex his party's fundraising might to get high voter turnout. A low turnout may have been mostly those wanting the Governor tossed. Larry Elder brought way too much attention to the issue.

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                          • #14
                            chris
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 19452

                            Originally posted by Mute
                            The recall failed because CA idiot voters bought into the TDS and believed that the strongest contender, Larry Elder, would have been Trump's stooge if he became governor. They didn't so much voted to keep Newsom as they did to vote against Trump. Our state is infested without low information voters.
                            California is the state with the worst cases and most hilarious case of TDS. The next four years of their psychological meltdown will be epic and laughed at.,

                            Even with the fires here in the LA area these even if a recall were to happen they would blindly vote to keep him in office. That is how stupid California voters are.
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                            • #15
                              bwiese
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 27621

                              Recalls fail often simply due to $money$ - regardless of politics. That it got on the ballot was good -
                              but it takes far far more money and advertising to reach everywhere in the state, repeatedly.

                              Reaching out to people at gunshops, boat shops, Harbor Freight etc.just isn't enough.

                              Bill Wiese
                              San Jose, CA

                              CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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