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  • TrevHolland
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 12

    AR-15 with bullet button?

    So, if I understand this correctly, as long as I have a 10 round mag, I can install a bullet button on my AR-15 and this makes it legal?

    Do I have to ensure it's an off-brand lower, or can I simply convert the mag release button on my Colt lower? From what I've read, it sounds like, even if I convert my Colt lower, it's still illegal because it's made by Colt. But logic would suggest that makes absolutely no sense, so I want to ensure I'm understanding this correctly.

    Thanks!
  • #2
    PanaDP
    Member
    • May 2008
    • 131

    If your lower is listed specifically, there's nothing you can do for it.

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    • #3
      TrevHolland
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 12

      Wow...thanks for the quick reply! Also, I should have known logic didn't apply here. haha

      Thanks for the info!

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      • #4
        Rattlehead
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 697

        Originally posted by TrevHolland
        So, if I understand this correctly, as long as I have a 10 round mag, I can install a bullet button on my AR-15 and this makes it legal?

        Do I have to ensure it's an off-brand lower, or can I simply convert the mag release button on my Colt lower? From what I've read, it sounds like, even if I convert my Colt lower, it's still illegal because it's made by Colt. But logic would suggest that makes absolutely no sense, so I want to ensure I'm understanding this correctly.

        Thanks!
        This will depend what kind of Colt lower you have, as Colt has released several California compliant models.

        Since I doubt that this is the case, I recommend you do not post the exact model on an open forum.

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        • #5
          Burbur
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 1258

          I will assume that Mr. Holland left his firearms with family out of state and inquiring on the proper preparations to make before bringing them to his new home.

          But to the OP, name or features an assault rifle makes, but only features can be mitigated by a fixed magazine device.

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          • #6
            stix213
            AKA: Joe Censored
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Apr 2009
            • 18998

            Use the flowchart linked toward the top of every page on this site. It includes the specific list of banned makes/models and everything else you need to ask yourself to make sure your rifle is legal. Using a bullet button is one way to help make it legal, but not the only way.

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            • #7
              j-rod
              Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 247

              Check the flowchart

              NRA Life Member

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              • #8
                IGOTDIRT4U
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Oct 2006
                • 10861

                Big question is, did you register it before the ban? If it is registered, then you need to do nothing.

                If it is not registered and on the banned list, then stop typing.

                If it is a non-list Colt like they are now selling, it should already be CA compliant with a BB in order for it to be sold to you.

                If it is out of state, you can't being a banned Colt in, but you can change the lower to an OLL and use all the other parts, leaving the Colt lower out of state.
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                • #9
                  TrevHolland
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 12

                  Originally posted by Burbur
                  I will assume that Mr. Holland left his firearms with family out of state and inquiring on the proper preparations to make before bringing them to his new home.

                  But to the OP, name or features an assault rifle makes, but only features can be mitigated by a fixed magazine device.
                  You assume correctly. My AR-15 is currently at my parents' house back in Florida, where it is 100% legal. But I miss it dearly, and recently discovered this "bullet button" shenanigans that magically make it legal.

                  When I purchased it, it was listed as a "post-ban" AR-15. So, perhaps that makes the lower legal in Cali (assuming it has a bullet button installed)? If not, I am more than willing to purchase an off-list lower. I just want my baby back.
                  Last edited by TrevHolland; 05-11-2012, 8:33 PM.

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                  • #10
                    ColdDeadHands1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 3391

                    You can have your rifle back for about $100. You need a new lower and a Bullet Button which can be had for about $100. Strip your rifle down, including the lower parts, leave the lower receiver in Florida, add your new off list lower and bullet button and you are back in business.

                    Make sure you leave your normal capacity (+10 round) mags in Florida too. You will need 10 rounders here in CA.


                    "Let me guess... This isn't about the alcohol or tobacco?"

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                    • #11
                      TrevHolland
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 12

                      Unbelievably good news! Thanks for all the help everyone. And my apologies for not exploring the forum more before asking questions.

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                      • #12
                        ColdDeadHands1
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 3391

                        I see you are a new member here. Welcome! I can only hope that you saw the "bullet button conspiracy" news reports that aired last week and had an epiphany that you could in fact have an AR-15 in California. If true, how awesome is it that the anti-gun liberal fools attempt to scare people will lead to yet another PERFECTLY LEGAL AR in California!


                        "Let me guess... This isn't about the alcohol or tobacco?"

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                        • #13
                          TrevHolland
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 12

                          Actually, I was watching random videos on youtube. And in the "recommended videos" section I happen to see a video entitled something along the lines of "how to build a California-legal AR-15". My mind was blown. I thought there was no way of getting my rifle legally into California. I have my Glock here, and my (mostly useless) Ruger LCP. But I miss my rifle something fierce!
                          Last edited by TrevHolland; 05-11-2012, 9:04 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Smokeybehr
                            In Memoriam
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 795

                            Originally posted by TrevHolland
                            When I purchased it, it was listed as a "post-ban" AR-15. So, perhaps that makes the lower legal in Cali (assuming it has a bullet button installed)? If not, I am more than willing to purchase an off-list lower. I just want my baby back.
                            Assume NOTHING. Use the flowchart, and don't fudge on the steps. If at any time you run into a red block, don't bring it into California.

                            There are plenty of CalGuns recommended and OLL-friendly dealers in the state that can help you out on building a lower that is compliant with the laws of the state.
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                            • #15
                              TrevHolland
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 12

                              Originally posted by Smokeybehr
                              Assume NOTHING. Use the flowchart, and don't fudge on the steps. If at any time you run into a red block, don't bring it into California.

                              There are plenty of CalGuns recommended and OLL-friendly dealers in the state that can help you out on building a lower that is compliant with the laws of the state.
                              yeah...at this point, i'm perfectly okay buying an off list lower. i want to be able to go to the range without any worry someone will attempt to take my rifle away from me.

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