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  • CarZone
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 46

    purchase put on hold by dept of justice

    I recently purchased a sks from a calguns member and meet at turners in chino hills. Turners called me today and notified me that the Dept of Justice contacted them and put my purchase on hold until they spoke to me. They gave Turners no further info just a ref #. He informed me that it wasnt a denial yet and it can still be approved. Has anyone had this happen to them? I had a DUI over 2 years ago and has since been completed. Also have a pending misdemeanor. Any info would be great.
  • #2
    skyscraper
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2011
    • 5198

    Pending misdemeanor would be my guess. The dros paperwork asks about certain misdemeanors.

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    • #3
      GOEX FFF
      ☆ North Texas ☆
      CGN Contributor
      • Jun 2007
      • 6319

      Here is the DOJ list which also shows prohibiting misdemeanors. Maybe take a look and see if your case is related in someway to any shown that may have perhaps caused the hold.

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      • #4
        CarZone
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 46

        Ya the misdemeanors it asked where either domestic violence or drug use. My charge was misdemeanor assault that is getting dropped but has not been finalized.

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        • #5
          Smokeybehr
          In Memoriam
          • Oct 2005
          • 795

          Until things are finalized, and you have the paperwork that clears you, you won't be able to complete the transaction. The DROS will have to be redone if it's more than 30 days from the initial DROS.
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          • #6
            CarZone
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 46

            ok now next question. Since i have purchased the rifle from a private seller can i transfer the rifle to someone else now if i am unable to recieve the gun?

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            • #7
              PixelBender
              Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 359

              This happend to me via Turners.

              I came in on the 10th or 11th day, and they gave me a paper with a number to call. Said the DOJ put a "hold on release" or something like that. I called and they asked to see dispositions(proper term?) on two cases... I called my lawyer and spoke with him about getting the proper paper work. He was surprised to hear that anything came up in the first place, considering they where cases from when I was 12, and 14 years of age. Long story. He put a request in for the papers and I got a call about 2 weeks later saying the DOJ had released the hold but my DROS would expire the following day. Turners never called me to tell me that the DOJ on the 13th day released the hold. I called the DOJ to confirm and that was that. I asked why they did that in the first place, and they had nothing else to say regarding the hold. Beats the hell out of me. It was my first purchase though, a few years ago. I have not had a problem since. I've pulled files from the archives for the Navy before and since then they misplaced the documents. It took them 3-4 months before they got the paperwork to my lawyer. One department said "we cant find them" the other said "we have half the documents" the whole thing was a giant cluster f*ck.
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              • #8
                Chaos47
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 6615

                I know it doesn't help you now but for people looking at this that might be in the same boat, or for you in the future if you get your charge cleared up..

                IMO anyone that has anything in their history should first request the Department of Justice to conduct a firearms eligibility background check...


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                Edit:
                To your question about what happens to the gun if you are fully denied
                This might help:

                Sounds like it goes back to the original owner (no dros no wait) and you are out the fee's as well
                Last edited by Chaos47; 05-05-2012, 6:35 PM.

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                • #9
                  mrdd
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2023

                  Originally posted by CarZone
                  ok now next question. Since i have purchased the rifle from a private seller can i transfer the rifle to someone else now if i am unable to recieve the gun?
                  You cannot do anything with the item until you resolve the issue. If you cannot resolve it within 30 days of the DROS, the DROS fails and the CA DOJ will run a check on the seller. If the seller passes the check, the item goes back to the seller. If the check on the seller fails, the FFL must turn the item over to the local LEA for disposition.

                  If the seller gets the item back, they can sell it to someone else. Be careful, though. If you are involved in a subsequent sale, it could be considered a straw sale. That could land you, the seller, and other buyer in trouble.
                  Last edited by mrdd; 05-05-2012, 6:41 PM. Reason: Clarity

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                  • #10
                    paul0660
                    In Memoriam
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 15669

                    it could be considered a straw sale.
                    LOL. Those are usually a lot slicker than this, and depend on the qualifications of the eventual owner.
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                    • #11
                      mrdd
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2023

                      Originally posted by paul0660
                      LOL. Those are usually a lot slicker than this, and depend on the qualifications of the eventual owner.
                      Paul, I am glad you thought it was funny.

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                      • #12
                        CarZone
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 46

                        I cant believe it has come to this. I have already payed the seller and I know that it will not be resolved untill june 14th and the dros ends on may 30th.

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                        • #13
                          Chaos47
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 6615

                          Originally posted by CarZone
                          I cant believe it has come to this. I have already payed the seller and I know that it will not be resolved untill june 14th and the dros ends on may 30th.
                          Better contact the seller and pray they will play ball.
                          Hopefully you wont have to take them to small claims court...

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                          • #14
                            Oceanbob
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 12719

                            Originally posted by Chaos47
                            Better contact the seller and pray they will play ball.
                            Hopefully you wont have to take them to small claims court...
                            Take who to small claims court?
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                            • #15
                              Chaos47
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 6615

                              Originally posted by Oceanbob
                              Take who to small claims court?
                              The seller.
                              The FFL is legally bound to give the seller back the rifle if OP does fail his DROS.
                              The seller really don't have a legal obligation to give a refund.
                              Besides moral, honor and ethical reasons.

                              It's a civil matter about giving OP a refund. And if they won't the only recourse would be small claims court.

                              Edit: Not saying I would keep the money, I would refund it. Just stating a possible outcome...
                              Last edited by Chaos47; 05-05-2012, 11:57 PM.

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