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  • #31
    626Tony
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 1808

    ever been to disneyland?
    Don't forget you can get it too....FOR A PRICE!!

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    • #32
      wilit
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2005
      • 5198

      Check this out. http://mysite.verizon.net/gfg/html/ATF1.htm

      Found it on another forum discussing the legality of building a signal cannon that fires shotgun blanks. http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php?topic=67262.0
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      • #33
        RipVanWinkle
        Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 266

        Originally posted by Decoligny
        The signal cannons that are legal currently can only accept blank shotgun shells.

        Review the California Penal Code on Short Barrelled Shotguns and you will find that it includes any firearm with a barrel less than 18 inches in length that can accept a standard shotgun shell.

        I think this is an SBS under CA PC.
        Sure fits the description in CA PC12020:

        (c)(1) As used in this section, a "short-barreled shotgun" means any of the following: (A) A firearm which is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell and having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length. (B) A firearm which has an overall length of less than 26 inches and which is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell.
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        • #34
          saki302
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 7183

          If the main body and breech are brass, it's probably only designed for signalling (blank) ammo.

          I highly doubt a brss breech and barrel will hold up to a smokeless round without blowing up. It might become a very large hand grenade.

          Lots of 12 gauge flare pistols will chamber 12 gauge shotgun ammo- and lots of them have put foolish people in the hospital who dared try it.

          If it's 10 gauge- it'd be a spectacular way to kill yourself with buckshot ammo.

          -Dave

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          • #35
            watsonville
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 568

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            • #36
              unusedusername
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 4124

              Originally posted by saki302
              If the main body and breech are brass, it's probably only designed for signalling (blank) ammo.
              +1 to this.

              Look up the pressures of modern 12GA ammo, compare to the pressure handling of the thickness of brass used in that "cannon".

              From the DOJ:

              CA PC 16520. (a) As used in this part, "firearm" means any device,
              designed to be used as a weapon, from which is expelled through a
              barrel, a projectile by the force of any explosion or other form of
              combustion.
              I would opine that since this clearly can not handle firing real ammo that it was not designed to be used as a weapon and hence is not a firearm under CA law.

              It might be safe to launch a low-pressure signal flare, which would classify it as a signaling device.

              Since it is (in my not-a-lawyer opinion) not a gun at all you are perfectly safe to hang it on a mantle.

              If you are really worried about it then give one of the lawyers here a call, send them some money and get a real opinion.
              Last edited by unusedusername; 03-13-2012, 1:43 PM.

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              • #37
                Flopper
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 1280

                Originally posted by Admirer
                The thing I am worried about with the C+R...I dont have the license yet. . .
                -ASA
                The C&R license is not necessary for ownership, only dealing in C&R's.

                Any non-prohibited person can own a C&R.
                Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound. -- L. Neil Smith

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