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    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44626

    SB 1366 (DeSaulnier) 2012: report stolen firearms 48 hours



    SB 1366, as introduced, DeSaulnier. Firearms: lost or stolen:
    reports.
    (1) Existing law requires each sheriff or police chief executive
    to submit descriptions of serialized property, or nonserialized
    property that has been uniquely inscribed, which has been reported
    stolen, lost, or found directly into the appropriate Department of
    Justice automated property system for firearms, stolen bicycles,
    stolen vehicles, or other property. Existing law requires that
    information about a firearm entered into the automated system for
    firearms remain in the system until the reported firearm has been
    found. Existing law requires the Department of Justice to implement
    an electronic system to receive comprehensive tracing information
    from each local law enforcement agency and to forward the information
    to the National Tracing Center.
    This bill would require every person, with exceptions, to report
    the theft or loss of a firearm he or she owns or possess to a local
    law enforcement agency in the jurisdiction in which the theft or loss
    occurred within 48 hours of the time he or she knew or reasonably
    should have known that the firearm had been stolen or lost, and
    requires every person who has reported a firearm lost or stolen to
    notify the local law enforcement agency within 48 hours if the
    firearm is subsequently recovered. The bill would make a violation of
    these provisions an infraction punishable by a fine not to exceed
    $100 for a first offense, and a misdemeanor, punishable by
    imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding 6 months, or by a fine
    not to exceed $1,000, or both that fine and imprisonment, for a
    subsequent offense. The bill would make it a misdemeanor for any
    person to make a report to a local law enforcement agency that a
    firearm has been lost or stolen, knowing the report to be false.
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  • #2
    RRangel
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 5164

    Completely wrong headed and an affront to gun owners in California. We know the purpose of this is to make it more of a legal hazard to own firearms than it already is. DeSaulnier can shove it. For all the civility, that gun owners continually muster in our state, everyone should be hot about this one.
    Last edited by RRangel; 02-25-2012, 10:26 PM.

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    • #3
      morfeeis
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2010
      • 7605

      wait so i could go to jail for 6 months for not telling a LEA my guns were stolen? so if they dont find them in 48 hours can i fine them?
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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30241

        Hrmmm...
        ... civil liability protection for any illicit use of your stolen firearms.

        The bill would provide that everyone who complies with the above
        provisions by reporting the loss or theft of a firearm shall be
        immune from civil liability for the illicit use or possession of the
        firearm occurring after the theft or loss, provided the person was
        not negligent with respect to the theft or loss of the firearm.
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        • #5
          Nor Cal Scot
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1349

          More and more laws...I guess that's why they are called lawmakers. Need to change that to lawtakers...
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          • #6
            Riflewizard
            Banned
            • Feb 2011
            • 107

            go to prison for 6 months for being a victim, eh? Pay 100 dollars?

            Insult to injury much...


            But it might make a decent law with some revision.

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            • #7
              mjmagee67
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 2771

              Do I hear a second for a PART TIME LEGISLATURE????

              But on a sidenote if any of my firearms gets stolen I will definatly be filling out a police report. To me this is a law looking for a problem to fix. Not a problem that we "need" to fix with another crappy feel good do nothing law!
              If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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              • #8
                Zimz
                Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 315

                How about an addition to this law: If a police department recovers a lost or stolen firearm and it is not being held for evidence to a crime, they are required to notify the owner within 48 hours of a proper time to pick up their property. Failure to do so or summary destruction of the firearm by the police department will result in compensating the owner the full price of the firearm.

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                • #9
                  littlejake
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 2168

                  Originally posted by mjmagee67
                  Do I hear a second for a PART TIME LEGISLATURE????
                  yes -- 2 terms. One in the Legislature and one term in prison.
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                  • #10
                    Helpful_Cub
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1461

                    Originally posted by Zimz
                    Failure to do so or summary destruction of the firearm by the police department will result in compensating the owner the full price of the firearm.
                    Retail or resale value, which ever is higher... I could see them trying to pass it off as used and only worth $10.
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                    • #11
                      C&Rtrader
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 1332

                      Originally posted by morfeeis
                      wait so i could go to jail for 6 months for not telling a LEA my guns were stolen? so if they dont find them in 48 hours can i fine them?
                      +1 on this.
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                      • #12
                        arc
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 204

                        There goes the whole "lost my guns in a tragic boating accident" excuse when they finally get around to confiscation.

                        -James

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                        • #13
                          Southwest Chuck
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 1942

                          Originally posted by arc
                          There goes the whole "lost my guns in a tragic boating accident" excuse when they finally get around to confiscation.

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                          Naa.... you lost them in a tragic boating accident.... Out of State !!!
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                          • #14
                            glockman19
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 10486

                            Originally posted by Zimz
                            How about an addition to this law: If a police department recovers a lost or stolen firearm and it is not being held for evidence to a crime, they are required to notify the owner within 48 hours of a proper time to pick up their property. Failure to do so or summary destruction of the firearm by the police department will result in compensating the owner the full price of the firearm.
                            Why only the price of the firearm? As a landlord in CA I am liable for 3X for not returning a security deposit within 21 days

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                            • #15
                              ALSystems
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1150

                              I think 10x the full retail value of the gun is more like it.
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