The best way to stop the war against gun owners

[Thelaststand]

It's very simple. Invite people to the range and get them into guns.

If you don't get more responsible, law abiding people into shooting then you will continue to have the same problem. I know a few californians who live in Texas and all of them love shooting and are into guns. The pro-gun californians are moving to the neighboring states and just like the problem with Cuba and Mexico if people who are not satisfied leave then the problems will never be solved.

Get people into guns and talk gun owners into staying in California and reforming the state.

[Experimentalist]

I think you need to rethink the title of your post. You seem to want to win the war against gun grabbers, not gun owners?

[RMP91]

I think you need to rethink the title of your post. You seem to want to win the war against gun grabbers, not gun owners?

^ This, are you a Brady?

[rplusplus]

Alchohol is your freind...

[SilverTauron]

It's very simple. Invite people to the range and get them into guns.

If you don't get more responsible, law abiding people into shooting then you will continue to have the same problem. I know a few californians who live in Texas and all of them love shooting and are into guns. The pro-gun californians are moving to the neighboring states and just like the problem with Cuba and Mexico if people who are not satisfied leave then the problems will never be solved.

Get people into guns and talk gun owners into staying in California and reforming the state.

I agree with the general message and point of your thread.

However, this is an approach that will not have instant results. It took decades for the liberals to take control of the politics and it will take decades to undo that shift.

People who feel that the area they stay in doesn't match their perspectives on life should be free to leave as they see fit. Let it be known also that just because someone moves out of a liberal area it does not mean that they are not active. I left Illinois years ago because its a communist cesspool, and the reality of the situation is that unless a lot of people in Chicago government go to jail it will stay a cesspool for the foreseeable future. I update my friends who stay behind on Illinois gun law movements so that they can take the necessary steps to secure their rights.

As far as introducing people to the range goes while in 4 of five cases it makes for a new convert to gun rights, be warned that like anything else its not 100% effective. No one can deny the fun satisfaction of hitting a target, but some people still think that 'common sense' regulation ain't so bad as long as its not a 'total' gun ban.

[Stonewalker]

I take coworkers to the range pretty regularly, and I pay for ammo if they are an anti!

[Sgt Raven]

I take coworkers to the range pretty regularly, and I pay for ammo if they are an anti!

Isn't that like a pusher giving someone their first few hits for free?

[chiselchst]

Alchohol is your freind...

Rough crowd?

I think that's a good point, in the long term. Many are doing this already...

But in the short term, we have an aggressive litigation strategy.

(You can "edit" the post title too, go to advanced when editing)

[Kid Stanislaus]

Rough crowd?
I think that's a good point, in the long term. Many are doing this already...
But in the short term, we have an aggressive litigation strategy.
(You can "edit" the post title too, go to advanced when editing)

Hey, the guy has only 14 posts (I won't speculate about whether or not that's his age as well).

[SWalt]

It's very simple. Invite people to the range and get them into guns.

If you don't get more responsible, law abiding people into shooting then you will continue to have the same problem. I know a few californians who live in Texas and all of them love shooting and are into guns. The pro-gun californians are moving to the neighboring states and just like the problem with Cuba and Mexico if people who are not satisfied leave then the problems will never be solved.

Get people into guns and talk gun owners into staying in California and reforming the state.

I agree with you that gun owners should be more proactive in introducing new blood into shooting to get more people on our side, but it won't stop gun owners from leaving the state. I was born, raised and live here all my 50 yrs and CA has killed the goose that laid the golden egg. Over regulation, bad business climate, over taxation, over crowded, far left legislature, more urbanized, etc are bigger factors of why good people move out in my opinion. Those who see the trends say F... it, I'm outa here. Its a trend that has been going on since the 1960's and I personally don't see them changing. It would be a great study in incrementalism. Getting more people into shooting is a good approach but it would have to be a major effort. IMHO.

[socal2310]

I have to say, it is refreshing to see a Texan advising us to stay in California and improve it. There are an awful lot of Texans who feel compelled to sign in just to tell us what lousy laws we have, and it's time to get out of dodge - I'm sure their friends and neighbors will be delighted to see more Californians invading Austin and environs...

Ryan

[Marthor]

In a Democracy, the best way to win is to have the majority. It was a great step in the right direction that last year was record gun sales in 2011.

[nicki]

See OPer's stats.

Guys,

The OPer appears to be new and from Texas, cut them some slack.

They are right that we are in a War and battles are fought two ways, either defensively or offensively.

The smart general who picks the time and place of battle usually wins.

The reason we have been losing ground in Cali is because we have been on defense for decades, but of course now we are in the beginning stages of a counter offensive.

Until we got "Heller", we simply had no recourse in the courts and with the one, two punch of Heller/MacDonald, things have changed.

The lower courts are in rebellion against the SCOTUS, my guess is they are hoping one of the heller 5 will be replaced before they get a chance to rule on additional gun cases which is why we have the stall game.

Just a small observation, Calguns has more than doubled in size since I signed up, we are right at 100K members, of course number I look at is the active members 20K plus.

There won't be any one way to get back our rights here in Cali, what will happen is a series of tactical wins both in the courts and in public opinion.

We use our brains, our opponents don't. Because our opponents don't, many of the things they are trying to do will epically backfire on them.

"Gene" made a comment, we are "smarter than them". That is an understatement.

Calguns has a very broad and diverse base of people on board which is why Calguns rightfully earned from the SAF the honor of being the best grassroots gun organization in the country.

Of course Calguns will share how to destroy anti gunners. When we are done here, we don't want anti gun crap being imported here from other states.

Nicki

[Thelaststand]

I'm not saying that taking someone to the range is the only way to advance our cause but it is the highest yield for me. Because of me six more people are active in gun rights advancement and each of them invite people to go to the range with us; we have one or two new shooters each time. Being in the medical field I have the opportunity to take people who have never fired a gun before to the range, mostly Asians, Hispanics and Hindus which includes foreign medical graduates.

The way I do it is in steps

1. Take them to the range the first time
2. If they have continued interest they can join my shooting group whenever we go.
3. I got a book in the mail from SAF a while ago called "assault on weapons" that is being read and passed around.

I don't do this just to get more people into guns, it's also hard for me to get regular gun owners (in the medical field) to go out and do the amature shooting competitions that we do in the dessert. Most traditional gun owners I invite to go with us would rather go skiing or snowboarding.

[Goosebrown]

I have a good friend that is an anti and I am going to get him to the range, I have been working on him for months and he's close to giving in.